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@slayer wrote:
@kevin wrote:
what is the point of noahs existence
its clearly to late to do anything now
would it be infanticide to end this virtual non existence
or just the right thing to doIgnorance beyond contempt
Go and ask his parents what the “point of his existence” is? You are such a feckwit
feckwit or not
whats ignorant about my post
try reading it and suspend your own prejudice towards me
dont bother you havent the intellectIgnorance, noun
“the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject;”
Got any severely disabled kids Kevin? Know what its like to walk a mile in their shoes?
As I said, ignorance beyond contempt
To suggest murdering a child because you think it would be “better off”- yep- my post is exactly right and summed you up to a tee
He just asks the question.
He has a point…. in cases where the child is suffering so badly, at what point would a Court of Law decide to do something to end that suffering?
@slayer wrote:
Ignorance, noun
“the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject;”
Got any severely disabled kids Kevin? Know what its like to walk a mile in their shoes?
As I said, ignorance beyond contempt
To suggest murdering a child because you think it would be “better off”- yep- my post is exactly right and summed you up to a tee
if you read what i put tiny brain
the second line said its to late now
my point is euthenasia is appropriate
its crueller to allow such suffering in my not so humble opinion
what a self righteous berk you are@kevin wrote:
@slayer wrote:
Ignorance, noun
“the want of knowledge in general, or in relation to a particular subject;”
Got any severely disabled kids Kevin? Know what its like to walk a mile in their shoes?
As I said, ignorance beyond contempt
To suggest murdering a child because you think it would be “better off”- yep- my post is exactly right and summed you up to a tee
if you read what i put tiny brain
the second line said its to late now
my point is euthenasia is appropriate
its crueller to allow such suffering in my not so humble opinion
what a self righteous berk you are
I can see your point Kevin but you can,t go around euthenising people simply because they are disabled, either mentally or physically. Euthenasia for terminally ill patients who haven,t a hope in hell of getting better, and are going to die in agony is another subject entirely, (and yes I do know exactly what I,m talking about there).
However Slayer is also right in that we havn,t a clue what this lady is going through. It must be stressful beyond belief for her. It was very brave of her to publically admit her feelings, feelings that I,m sure countless other parents of equally disabled children have had, but have been to scared to admit. She has my total sympathy.your missing my point
my empathy towards her plight is boundless
when my wife was pregnant for the last time we were offered the triple test
we refused it because no matter what , it was our child
and i dont say that lightly
in this extreme case ,where there is no hope just suffering
as hard as it may be
if it was my call i would choose the ending of my childs life
i believe as a parent you protect your child from suffering at all costs
i would of made that callIf, when a woman is pregnant, she discovers that her baby is going to be born severly disabled, ie blind, deaf and in constant pain with zero quality of life, then probably so would I, but just supposing the triple test hadn,t been avaliable and your child turned out to be disabled, what would you have done then? What do you think of the recent case in the news of the mother who, allegedly, killed her 22 year old son and hid his body in a suitcase for weeks, and then hung herself because she couldn,t handle the guilt of what she had done?
@bat wrote:
If, when a woman is pregnant, she discovers that her baby is going to be born severly disabled, ie blind, deaf and in constant pain with zero quality of life, then probably so would I, but just supposing the triple test hadn,t been avaliable and your child turned out to be disabled, what would you have done then? What do you think of the recent case in the news of the mother who, allegedly, killed her 22 year old son and hid his body in a suitcase for weeks, and then hung herself because she couldn,t handle the guilt of what she had done?
its difficult
if my child had downs i would love her or him all the more
not that i’m dismissing the all consuming role that is for the parents
i’m talking about the case you highlighted
i would never let my child suffer if i had the choice
as regards the mother the depths of her despair only she clearly knew
its tragic she felt that was the only option available to herYep, you’re all right- I must have got it so wrong
This practise, the “euthasnia” of severely disabled infants (and adults) was the ethos used by Adolf Hitler to support his creation of the Aryan race
I wouldnt suggest anyone on here would prescribe following a Nazi doctrine but judging by the response here, it obviously has its supporters
So who draws the line then and what illness…cerebral palsy perhaps? ex meningoccal septacaemia children (blind deaf and prones to fits) etc etc- quality of life is nil (according to those on here) so lets just send em of to sleep cos it suages our consciences and makes us feel better cos its the “right thing to do”-
– perhaps we could sterilise known carriers (ie downs adults etc) to ensure “they” don’t reproduce
And Kevin…if you read YOUR post again…you even have the audacity to ask whether murdering a child…sorry, putting it out of its misery (in your eyes) is really murder? (3rd line in case you’d forgotten)
Its a “non existence” in your eyes but NOT to the parents and not to the child
(Sorry Slayer, but you mentioned both “Adolf Hitler” AND “Nazis” in the same post … you lose the debate !! …….. Ed)
Slayer I,m not talking about euthenising every child who is born with something wrong with it, I,m on about severly disabled children. For example; I know someone, (a family member) who has a daughter who is blind, deaf, can,t walk, and is doubly incontinent. Screams and cries constantly and hasn,t a clue who she is, where she is nor has any awareness of her surroundings, or even her own mother. Hardly sleeps at night and consequently her mum hardly gets any sleep atall. She also has two perfectly healthy sons. IF her mother had know all this before she had her, do you think that a termination would have been the best option, or do you think she should still have gone ahead with the pregnancy?
In the case that I highlighted, I don,t think for one second that the mother in question, (allegedly) killed her son to suage her concience atall, I think, again IF she did it, that she had simply reached the end of her tether. We,ll never know what was going through her mind, or the depth of her despair. How can we? We wern,t in her position so who are we to judge her?
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