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what about cheating on your seriously ill husband
what punishment for that
hmmmm@thin ice wrote:
what about cheating on your seriously ill husband
what punishment for that
hmmmmThin, it’s a shame that you’re hijacking this for unrelated personal point-scoring. Bootscardgate was dead and buried as far as I know, so the “joke” is wearing a bit thin (see what I did there?).
And is it the cheating or the serious illness that suggests punishment to you?
@thin ice wrote:
what about cheating on your seriously ill husband
what punishment for that
hmmmmSent to Hell probably …….. so See you there then ! :wink:
And let me repeat Again to you Bully Boy …….. you Think you know everything ….
You have NO idea and …… Tum podem extulit horridulum!
Now have a nice day – in that bitter , twisted little world of yours.
@Wordsworth50 wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
If everyone believed in an Eye for an Eye… the world would be blind.
Not sure who said this its a quote in my diary.
If anyone’s interested in theological points, the original use of “an eye for an eye” referred to damage to babies in the womb. With all we are supposed to worry about today about drinking, smoking, environmental factors like fumes and x-rays, that would have some scary implications if taken to the nth degree.
It was Mahatma Gandhi Mrs T.
Words, I thought “an eye for an eye” came from the Old Testament and was intended to limit punishment, i.e. many crimes were punishable by death, but when it came to personal injury then it should be like for like – a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a hand for a hand etc. Interestingly we now associate it with Muslim law but it was also a part of Hebrew law.
Exodus 21:23-25 (King James Version)
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
@jen_jen wrote:
@Wordsworth50 wrote:
@mrs_teapot wrote:
If everyone believed in an Eye for an Eye… the world would be blind.
Not sure who said this its a quote in my diary.
If anyone’s interested in theological points, the original use of “an eye for an eye” referred to damage to babies in the womb. With all we are supposed to worry about today about drinking, smoking, environmental factors like fumes and x-rays, that would have some scary implications if taken to the nth degree.
It was Mahatma Gandhi Mrs T.
Words, I thought “an eye for an eye” came from the Old Testament and was intended to limit punishment, i.e. many crimes were punishable by death, but when it came to personal injury then it should be like for like – a life for a life, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a hand for a hand etc. Interestingly we now associate it with Muslim law but it was also a part of Hebrew law.
Exodus 21:23-25 (King James Version)
23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
That’s right Jen, but if you look at verse 21 and 22 you’ll see the context if harm is done to the unborn child
Well I don’t have my bible with me right now, but isn’t google a wonderful thing? :lol:
I’d agree with your interpretation based on Exodus, but then Leviticus applies it to personal injury in general and apart from the unborn child.
Leviticus 24:17-21 (King James Version)
17 And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death.
18 And he that killeth a beast shall make it good; beast for beast.
19 And if a man cause a blemish in his neighbour; as he hath done, so shall it be done to him;
20 Breach for breach, eye for eye, tooth for tooth: as he hath caused a blemish in a man, so shall it be done to him again.
21 And he that killeth a beast, he shall restore it: and he that killeth a man, he shall be put to death.Gotta love those Old Testment dudes – no doubt about it, we’re all going to hell. :wink:
@jen_jen wrote:
Gotta love those Old Testment dudes – no doubt about it, we’re all going to hell. :wink:
. . . and not in one piece either.
@Wordsworth50 wrote:
@Wordsworth50 wrote:
If it had been my daughter I would not want to stop at disfigurement.
Taffyfish, what I meant when I said that was that if it was my daughter I would have wanted to kill him slowly, painfully and savagely, not just injure him. Does that answer your question? It might be worth reading the rest of my comments on the subject.
No prison would be harsh enough for anyone who hurt someone I care for. But my personal vengeance would help put society into a dark age as the associates of the avengee would want their revenge on me and on and on and on. And believe me, if it did happen, pray you were not nearby because I would be even less concerned about collateral damage than Tony Blair.
So please don’t try to dismiss my comments by suggesting that I would be happy to see the killer of my kid in any kind of ‘luxury’. It does you no favours and is insulting.
Thank you for clearing that up Words…kind of…so you do believe in an eye for an eye for your child.
Also if asking you a question was insulting then i apologise!!
We are all entitled to our own opinions so moving on….
@taffyfish wrote:
…so you do believe in an eye for an eye for your child.
Also if asking you a question was insulting then i apologise!!
We are all entitled to our own opinions so moving on….Taffyfish, I’m sorry if my answer was not clear, but I believe the subject is important enough to try once more. In the absence of anything further directed at me personally, I shall then move on.
I do believe that some questions, but by no means all, can be insulting, particularly if they suggest something negative about the person to whom they are directed.
I do not believe in an eye for an eye even for my own child. As I said, it is a destructive and ultimately unfruitful course of action.
However as an emotional reaction to any hurt to people I care about, it would be dishonest for me to pretend I would feel otherwise. Predictably, I would want revenge, but I do not believe that my personal revenge is a good basis for law, otherwise my old sixth form head would be subject to torture even now, for hurts real and imagined.
One of the functions of law is to enhance a society’s chances of survival, so it is important to prevent the kind of public vendettas which I believe my human instincts would provoke.
Even in the case of my own child, the punishment of any person convicted of a crime against them should, most emphatically, NOT be the enactment of the same crime on the guilty by the state or anyone else, despite any hurt or anger felt on my own part.
@Wordsworth50 wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
what about cheating on your seriously ill husband
what punishment for that
hmmmmThin, it’s a shame that you’re hijacking this for unrelated personal point-scoring. Bootscardgate was dead and buried as far as I know, so the “joke” is wearing a bit thin (see what I did there?).
And is it the cheating or the serious illness that suggests punishment to you?
thank you for your valued input wordsworth
but please dont hi jack this thread by trying to dictate its content :roll:
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