Viewing 10 posts - 1 through 10 (of 54 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #20318

    How many gun crimes have been committed recently?
    How many more innocent people have to be murdered?

    I think America should get rid of all guns out of the hands of civilians.

    There is no need for home protection (esp if you live in a peaceful area.)

    Discuss.

    #526063

    The recent change of law allowing same sex marriage is a major achievement for such a conservative nation but I can’t see gun laws changing in the USA in my lifetime. Give them time though, they are 800 years behind the UK.

    #526064

    It’s cause they’re all mental

    #526065

    well, a lot of them are mental..yes..

    but the right to bear arms is part of their Constitution..

    It’s just the bizarre way in which it’s interpreted, so that anyone can get a gun or a RPG7 bazooka to put in their garage.

    Immediately after Kennedy was shot, someone sent an order for the rifle alleged to have killed him, giving name and address as L.H.Oswald, Texas School Book Depository, Dallas, Texas. The rifle arrived on time.

    So Americans can tighten up their gun control laws in a major way. I’m with Obama on this one.

    But Britain’s gun control laws are far too tight.

    There’s a good reason for that article in the US Constitution.

    #526066

    1787 is when the American Constitution was signed.

    A lot of things have changed since then. Using the Constitution as a reason to keep guns in the home is as backwards as saying – it was legal to marry children so why cant we now.

    Times change and people should change with it.

    Theres too many people with underlined mental illness and then theres some with bad blood in them.
    The only ones who should have access to guns are the Police and Military only.

    Hunters can have one shotgun for hunting but no reason to have any more.

    #526067

    I doubt that they’ll ever change that article – it’s the foundation stone of the USA.

    Times do change, and the US Constitution has been amended to change with them.

    It;s the bizarre way they’ve interpreted that article. The gun control laws are so loose it’s genuinely scary. You need very tight gun control laws. A hunter only needs one shotgun to kill innocent people. Ditto with armed police and the military.

    As you know in NI, Lucy, and as we are all know in the UK, gun control laws don’t stop guns anyway. If someone form ISIS or just some nutter decided to take out a school, the kids need adequate defence. And so do we all.

    Very tight gun control laws are needed – Obama and any other sane person in the US knows that. But not so tight that only the military and police have them – it’s to stop that that the USA wrote the right to bear arms as the second most important article of the Bill of Rights, just after freedom of religion.

    #526068

    Most non americans think americans are nutters…….but moving on..

    I don’t know what the current law is regarding licence renewing and medicals both here and across the pond but I am assuming you dont have a medical within a year but every year or so?
    Problem is like Lucy said, with mental health issues, it can strike anyone at anytime, and someone unstable and vunerable all of a sudden has a gun, seen in a different light.
    I know someone who seemed absolutely fine, normal, working, going out socialising as normal, or what was seen as normal to the circle….then within a week of him confiding in me, we went to the doctors he was sent to a hospital for people with mental illnesses. There he got worse and has now been sectioned….I go often to see him, which is rather difficult to say the least and hes just a shadow of his former self…..
    Anyway the point im trying to make is…you literally can be be ok one minute and the next…not. Anyone can be a firearms licence holder (if normal enough to get one in the first place)..
    I personally do not agree with Jo Bloggs owning a gun….no need….if it ever came that we needed to protect ourselves….whilst out and about…we couldnt carry them anyway…so no point….if an intruder came to your house and you wanted to blow his brains out….chances are he will get you before you get him…youre going to have to find the frigging key to the cabinet the damn thing is stored in!

    #526069

    Are people required to have a medical before a firearms certificate is issued? I don’t know for certain, but I’m not sure they are.

    As for mental illness, I think that when you apply for a licence or a renewal, you’re just asked a series of questions, one of which is mental health problems within the family. I suppose it’s up to the individual how honest they are.

    As Lady Kenty (OBE) rightly points out, mental illness can come along and take a grip very quickly.

    I’m not a lover of guns I have to admit. No different from knives, if they’re about your person and trouble strikes, the chances are you’ll use it before you have time to think of the consequences.

    #526070

    The myths and misconceptions regarding mental illness and violence are quite depressing. In this case ‘gun crime’ in the USA. Personally I find it quite shocking that in the age of google and instant information people are still so ignorant regarding this issue.

    One in four will experience mental health problems in any given year. The USA is comparable to the UK and slightly higher % wise. The majority of extreme violent crime and homicides, particularly ‘gun crime’ in the USA, are committed by people who do not have serious mental health problems. In fact extreme violent crime committed by people with serious mental health issues/illness is rare both in the UK and in the USA.

    I suspect media witch hunts are partly responsible but mostly pig ignorance.

    #526071

    Don’t like guns dunno how they can walk round with them or have them in there house id be very uneasy with them but America is a very crazy place lol

Viewing 10 posts - 1 through 10 (of 54 total)

Get involved in this discussion! Log in or register now to have your say!