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11 August, 2008 at 9:13 pm #361038
Neither did i and i’m a bloody scientist :wink:
11 August, 2008 at 9:14 pm #36103911 August, 2008 at 9:14 pm #361040So…
We don’t lend them money so they can’t kill each other conventionally anymore. Many billions of pounds/dollars of loans were wiped off in the past two or three years as it is. Why would a country in turmoil through dictatorship, civil war, border and land disputes, famine, starvation, etc. want to make it’s own economy when it has the West to give them unlimited amounts of cash? Don’t get me wrong it’s a vicious circle, but what are the West supposed to do? Give them nothing and let them die by war and starvation and be condemned for it? Or give them money to do the same thing anyway but make the powerful people a little richer?
I love Third World Development… works a treat.
11 August, 2008 at 9:15 pm #361041I am seriously thinking of volunteering to go out there and help build a well.
11 August, 2008 at 9:18 pm #361042@sharongooner wrote:
@pete wrote:
Neither did i and i’m a bloody scientist :wink:
:lol:
are ya?!
yeah 8-[
11 August, 2008 at 9:21 pm #361043@sword wrote:
So…
We don’t lend them money so they can’t kill each other conventionally anymore. Many billions of pounds/dollars of loans were wiped off in the past two or three years as it is. Why would a country in turmoil through dictatorship, civil war, border and land disputes, famine, starvation, etc. want to make it’s own economy when it has the West to give them unlimited amounts of cash? Don’t get me wrong it’s a vicious circle, but what are the West supposed to do? Give them nothing and let them die by war and starvation and be condemned for it? Or give them money to do the same thing anyway but make the powerful people a little richer?
I love Third World Development… works a treat.
give them food dont sell them weapons and put conditions on any loan humane conditions People actually starve cause some countries force their people to grow crops to sell to us at a price we dictate to make payments on loans we give
11 August, 2008 at 9:26 pm #361044Hasn’t this all been done before? 1985 and Live Aid comes to mind for the Ethiopian famine. So 23 years on, which country are they talking about when suggesting another major famine? Ahhhh yes Ethiopia.
It’s all very well handing over tax payers in other countries cash or humanitarian aid, but these countries eventually become dependant on handouts and do not ever manage to find the skills through education to become self sufficient. Their Govts won’t help because they are to busy spending money on bullets and bombs, so once again it is left to the West to bail them out.
Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. And until these countries learn to become self sufficient there will be many more famines.
11 August, 2008 at 9:32 pm #361045They cant control the weather and they’re not all warring. Point is we want to hand it over we can afford it and we like cheap coffee sugar tea whatever they have to offer really. The Western governments dont bail them out they have ulterior motives oh and butter mountains and beef mountains but sod it let it rot
11 August, 2008 at 9:39 pm #361046No I do agree that the Western Governments want something out of it. I hate the underhand politics of the ‘democracies’ in nearly every way shape and form. They have made me very cynical about what their ultimate aims are in any political arena.
But these are still ever decreasing circles and I would actually like to know how many water pumps were provided and installed from the Live Aid money of 1985 and why these are no longer sufficent, as there are other Live Aid type projects every year in this country alone, of which a percentage of the money raised goes to these famine hit countries.
However until, and not before, these famine hit country’s despot leaders stop their wars against their own people and their neighbours then I personally can never see the situations ever changing, and for that reason I don’t believe the hard earnt money of the British tax payer should be dipping into their pockets to pay for more corruptness.
11 August, 2008 at 9:41 pm #361047@minim wrote:
I am seriously thinking of volunteering to go out there and help build a well.
is that you being a “barbed sarcastic” or are you really considering it?
If so then good luck, nothing better than direct action, thats the best charity in my book.
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