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1 December, 2011 at 4:45 pm #483981
Heck…. I just read it has been announced that if you are caught drink driving at Christmas you can lose your license in 90 minutes!!!!
WOW… now that will have an impact :shock:
1 December, 2011 at 4:50 pm #483982Good. Serves them right. They shouldn’t get it back again either.
1 December, 2011 at 5:51 pm #483983drink drivers should all go to prison
full stop
none of this short ban nonsense
get convicted you should loose your liberty1 December, 2011 at 6:05 pm #483984Although i am pretty much tee total, i dont agree with the total ban, how many people go out for a meal and are out a good few hours chatting and eating and like that one glass of red with their meal etc? They wouldn’t be over the limit and by the time they drove the chances are the alcohol wouldnt even be in their system anymore, usually you have your vino with your main so after dessert and poss coffee etc there isnt really an issue. Especially for people that live miles away from the nearest restaurant you have to drive there, so that one glass i don’t think is in anyway a danger to anyone. It should definately be down to personal responsibility.And remain as it is now. As for the instant 90 minutes ban for anyone who is actually over the limit, i agree 100%.
1 December, 2011 at 6:35 pm #483985@(f)politics? wrote:
Although i am pretty much tee total, i dont agree with the total ban, how many people go out for a meal and are out a good few hours chatting and eating and like that one glass of red with their meal etc? They wouldn’t be over the limit and by the time they drove the chances are the alcohol wouldnt even be in their system anymore, usually you have your vino with your main so after dessert and poss coffee etc there isnt really an issue. Especially for people that live miles away from the nearest restaurant you have to drive there, so that one glass i don’t think is in anyway a danger to anyone. It should definately be down to personal responsibility.And remain as it is now. As for the instant 90 minutes ban for anyone who is actually over the limit, i agree 100%.
if it aint in their sytem any more
then they cant be banned :roll:1 December, 2011 at 7:03 pm #483986It’s zero tolerance in countries like Sweden ……….look at how many deaths they have per year……..why does being able to have just 1 drink before you get behind the wheen seem so important?
1 December, 2011 at 7:31 pm #483987I have always believed that random breath tests should be the norm and that anyone found driving with ANY level of booze in their bloodstream should be banned from drivinfor life. Draconian maybe but a lot of lives saved.
1 December, 2011 at 8:10 pm #483988@thin ice wrote:
@(f)politics? wrote:
Although i am pretty much tee total, i dont agree with the total ban, how many people go out for a meal and are out a good few hours chatting and eating and like that one glass of red with their meal etc? They wouldn’t be over the limit and by the time they drove the chances are the alcohol wouldnt even be in their system anymore, usually you have your vino with your main so after dessert and poss coffee etc there isnt really an issue. Especially for people that live miles away from the nearest restaurant you have to drive there, so that one glass i don’t think is in anyway a danger to anyone. It should definately be down to personal responsibility.And remain as it is now. As for the instant 90 minutes ban for anyone who is actually over the limit, i agree 100%.
if it aint in their sytem any more
then they cant be banned :roll:Zero tolerance means 0 in their system and i said the chances are it wont be, doesnt mean there wouldnt be the slightest tiny bit, but would he hard to judge exactly the point it would read zero, so that miniscule amount would then show up on a reading, which then wouldn’t be zero, hope that explains what i meant better for you
2 December, 2011 at 1:33 pm #483989I don’t agree with DD and think it should be no alcohol if you’re driving.
But one in six deaths are caused by DD. http://www.drinkdrivingfacts.com/drinkdriving/drink_driving_facts.aspx
So 5 out of 6 deaths are caused by sober drivers?
2 December, 2011 at 6:30 pm #483990I totally disagree with drinking and driving and do believe that over the limit should be an almost instant and rapid ban (days later but not 90mins, we still need the right to get legal representation – that time limit smacks of a police state and technically you would still be intoxicated and unable to understand or challenge the charges ). However an “any alcohol at all” automatic ban is very draconian and unreasonable.
People are missing the point that many foods contain alcohol, espescially at the festive period – various christmas cakes – sherry trifle – brandy absorbed by pouring on Christmas pudding then set alight (but then blown out)- various things done in wine/port sauces. Some may say that these are “boiled off” in cooking but not all actually are. For those who have diligently avoided alcoholic drinks it would crushing to loose a licence because of a small amount in the bloodstream caused by eating.
By the way if you are eating alcohol prepared foods you should be aware of their impact, even if you dont have a drink. There are cases where people have lost their licences because of them. Home made are worst because of “heavy hands” on preparation and not enough cooking time to boil off the alcohol. Also I recall some years ago a publican was found to be just over limit from breathing the fumes in an pretty crowded bar with lots of spirits being ordered (he succesfully appealed but vowed to be more aware and careful).
So be careful what you eat! (and under no circumstances drink and drive).
If in doubt walk/get a taxi or crash out on a sofa. (sofa would be my option as you could party longer :twisted:)
Ian
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