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9 December, 2007 at 11:16 pm #294994
@emmalush wrote:
@out-and-about wrote:
@emmalush wrote:
Its currently like a managerial merry-go-round, foreigners saying maybe i’ll do it, maybe the FA will invite me to an expensive wine n dine talk sesh.
Alan is English, he’s watched the managerial England job very closely, he wont need persuading or £6 million football fans dosh via the turnstyles, he’ll do it for his country.
Yurgen klansman did well at germany, why not Shearer?
Emma, talk about something you know about, this is football.
Ive been to England V Turkey and yugoslavia in the early 90’s, V Serbia & montenigger few years ago, Brazil, Russia, Israel, Germany, Estonia and Croasia at Wemberly THIS year.
How many England games you been to lately?
Shhhhh……aaAHHHH
Doesn’t matter how many games you’ve been to- if you’re seriously suggesting Alan Shearer for England manager, you learnt f/uck all- but as you’re a woman, I fully understand how complicated you find football and will make allowances for your lack of a football brain
10 December, 2007 at 12:28 am #294995@anita Gofradump wrote:
You can’t have someone who has never even managed walk straight into the England job
Jurgen klinsman did ok for germany. Infact he did so well he’s one of the front contenders for England as a result.
I would however have Shearer in the England staff and having a role of some description.
To teach the players to play well? Aint that what a manager does…
Manuel Almunia has confirmed his intention to press ahead and claim international recognition for England.
So we don’t need to worry about Carson, Robinson, James, Kirkland, Green, cos we will have a spanish goal keeper who is desperate and we will take him, what a laughing stock we will be.Weve got Ray clemence.
If we want a foreigner with WINNING experience, Carlo Ancelotti’s won TWO European Champions Leagues with AC Milan in the past 5 years, and finalists with Liverpool.
THREE finals in 5 years, very impressive.
10 December, 2007 at 12:31 am #294996@slayer wrote:
if you’re seriously suggesting Alan Shearer for England manager, you learnt f/uck all
Why shouldn’t it be Alan?
10 December, 2007 at 12:53 am #294997@emmalush wrote:
@anita Gofradump wrote:
You can’t have someone who has never even managed walk straight into the England job
Jurgen klinsman did ok for germany. Infact he did so well he’s one of the front contenders for England as a result.
But he is a 1 off, a fluke, and a fcking kruat, no way should we ever have a german manager!
I would however have Shearer in the England staff and having a role of some description.
To teach the players to play well? Aint that what a manager does…
No not at all, if the manager did everything, you wouldnt have, goal keeper coaches etc, the manager does not much more than pick the team and pick the tactics when it comes down to it.
Manuel Almunia has confirmed his intention to press ahead and claim international recognition for England.
So we don’t need to worry about Carson, Robinson, James, Kirkland, Green, cos we will have a spanish goal keeper who is desperate and we will take him, what a laughing stock we will be.Weve got Ray clemence.
You suggesting putting Ray in goal, or you dont know who Almunia is, Almunia is a goalkeeper, not a coach you tit.
If we want a foreigner with WINNING experience, Carlo Ancelotti’s won TWO European Champions Leagues with AC Milan in the past 5 years, and finalists with Liverpool.
Carlo has never done anything with Liverpool, have you been on grandpars medicine?
THREE finals in 5 years, very impressive.
I’m a Liverpool supporter, Rafa has won the European Cup, Uefa Cup in back to back seasons, and the European Cup final runner up, won spanish league title, and other various cups he has won as manager excellent pedigree on paper, but no way would i want him as England manager.
10 December, 2007 at 12:56 am #294998@emmalush wrote:
@slayer wrote:
if you’re seriously suggesting Alan Shearer for England manager, you learnt f/uck all
Why shouldn’t it be Alan?
You can’t have Shearer as manager, what has he ever done to prove he can even manage, let alone manage well. It’s the same scenario with Stuart Pearce last time round, he was tipped to be manager, what a joke that that was, where is he now!
10 December, 2007 at 1:04 am #294999it won’t be shearer, however I think he will be involved in the set up, Pearce is currently doing well with the u21 team, he has been a bit unlucky really, he did’nt have the money or the reputation sven had at City to bring in top quality players, so its hard to judge or compare what sven has done to what peace did’nt do
jose will love the attention of being number 1 target though i can’t see him wanting it, he wants a bigger club job, he will wait one of the top clubs in spain to come calling, he will name his price too
harry rednapp would be my choice but I doubt very much it would be the FA’s choice with whats going off at the moment behind the scenes, martin o neil should have been offered the job last time round, if he was.. we would’nt even be discussing the next england manager, we would be discussing what squad he may be looking to pick instead
lets see what happens, no rush though, wait till after euro 2008 is over, till the season is over.. who knows.. arsen wenger may win the league, champions league and fa cup with ars enal and think… well i can’t really beat that… i’ll take the england job
10 December, 2007 at 2:16 am #295000@anita Gofradump wrote:
No not at all, if the manager did everything, you wouldnt have, goal keeper coaches etc, the manager does not much more than pick the team and pick the tactics when it comes down to it.
But the manager tells the coaches what he wants the players to learn. No good coach vinny jones teaching a midfielder what he knows if the manager is Harry Redknapp.Football is quite simple, over complecated by people to give the impression they know something the rest dont.
Alan Shearer knows alot about the modern game, not long finished playing it.
Rafa has won the European Cup, Uefa Cup in back to back seasons, and the European Cup final runner up, won spanish league title, and other various cups he has won as manager excellent pedigree on paper, but no way would i want him as England manager.
Me either, but when we talk about managerial success, you concentrate on the champions league, which is harder to win than the world cup, Carlo Ancelotti is by far the most successful.10 December, 2007 at 2:28 am #295001@anita Gofradump wrote:
You can’t have Shearer as manager, what has he ever done to prove he can even manage, let alone manage well. It’s the same scenario with Stuart Pearce last time round, he was tipped to be manager, what a joke that that was, where is he now!
What had klinsman done?
Does it absolutely matter?
Martin o’neill hadn’t done anything managerial wise untill he came to Leicester. Then within 18 months he geared us to the best season we’d ever had.
No one knows for absolute who is the best, but to say that a very proud Englishman who not that long ago played for and captained England, was one of the best strikers the premiership has ever seen etc etc
If Graham donkey taylor can be successful with watford without EVER playing the game, then theres no definate qualification needed.
Simply put, if robinson, neville, ferdinand, terry, cole, phillips, gerrard, barry, cole, rooney and owen are all fit to play, millions would go with it, some would play lamps.
You’re telling me Alan hasn’t the knowledge to pick them, and guide them to do what comes naturally to them, just cos he hasn’t managed…its not rocket science.
10 December, 2007 at 2:03 pm #295002@emmalush wrote:
@anita Gofradump wrote:
You can’t have Shearer as manager, what has he ever done to prove he can even manage, let alone manage well. It’s the same scenario with Stuart Pearce last time round, he was tipped to be manager, what a joke that that was, where is he now!
What had klinsman done?
Does it absolutely matter?
Depends if the national team means anything to you?
Martin o’neill hadn’t done anything managerial wise untill he came to Leicester. Then within 18 months he geared us to the best season we’d ever had.
Managing leicester and the national team are not exactly the same kettle of fish, Leics was a cr.ap club with low expectations so it didnt matter if he fcked up.
Martin had almost 10yrs managing experience before he took over at Leicester.
1987–1989 – Grantham Town
1989–1990 – Shepshed Charterhouse
1990-1995 – Wycombe Wanderers
1995 – Norwich City
Then he joined LeicesterNo one knows for absolute who is the best, but to say that a very proud Englishman who not that long ago played for and captained England, was one of the best strikers the premiership has ever seen etc etc
Best Striker around must naturally make him a great manager?
If Graham donkey taylor can be successful with watford without EVER playing the game, then theres no definate qualification needed.
Again nobody gave a monkeys about watford they are not and never have been a big club, so they once had a run in the top flight of english football, it’s nothing.
But again he did have experience managing before he went to watford, oh and he was a playerHe played before he managed:
1962-1968 – Grimsby Town (189 appearances)
1968-1972 – Lincoln City (150 appearances)and he managed Lincoln City for 5 years before he went to watford.
Simply put, if robinson, neville, ferdinand, terry, cole, phillips, gerrard, barry, cole, rooney and owen are all fit to play, millions would go with it, some would play lamps.
You’re telling me Alan hasn’t the knowledge to pick them, and guide them to do what comes naturally to them, just cos he hasn’t managed…its not rocket science.
So if Sven, Mickey Mac Clown Claren who have experience at club level of being managers can’t do it, you trying to say someone with no experience can do it better, come on emma at least make the argument for your case plausable :lol:
10 December, 2007 at 3:27 pm #295003Anita Gofradump wrote:Depends if the national team means anything to you?It means alot, so that means we should have Harry, but if not Alan.
Managing leicester and the national team are not exactly the same kettle of fish, Leics was a cr.ap club with low expectations so it didnt matter if he fcked up.
:lol: he was booed 3 months in, infact a sit-in protest, so it did matter.
Martin had almost 10yrs managing experience before he took over at Leicester.
What do those clubs matter or what he did? Which was NOTHING, which is why what he did at Leicester was incredible considering his managerial past, and resources.
Best Striker around must naturally make him a great manager?
Nope, but you havn’t told me why he shouldn’t be manager other than he hasn’t been a manager. Ive given you experience in the modern game, that no manager considered has.
Again nobody gave a monkeys about watford
You dont mind showing your ignorance.
The point is he was successful, but not as a player.So if Sven, Mickey Mac Clown Claren who have experience at club level of being managers can’t do it, you trying to say someone with no experience can do it better
Of course, and he could also be worse, Jose could be worse, capello could be worse, sven and maclaren were as “qualified” as any manager in the world considering their club jobs, but they failed,
There is SIMPLY no qualification that says you’re qualified to be a successfull England manager,
THUS, Alan Shearer is as “qualified” as most in the frame.
Therefore, seeing as he’s a very proud Englishman, he’s respected in the game, played and captained England not long ago, with Bobby Robson in the background, theres no reason to assume he’d fail.
If klinsman can do it for germany…
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