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18 August, 2007 at 5:31 pm #278580
Infact, if you REALLY want to cling to such nonsensical eroneous manipulative tosh, sperm does in itself “live” in a biological sense, as do a womans eggs
Each dies when not party to a fertilisation, and each COULD have developed into a baby
So following your rather eroneous reasoning, both eggs and sperm individually fall into the same life classification as a foetus, they are non sentient collections of cells that live in biological definitions
So, as they have the propensity to mature into a person in the same way the collection of organic mush called a foetus does then everytime a bloke wanks or a woman ovulates but doesnt conceive thats murder
Even if a bloke doesnt wank, his sperm regularly die off and are replaced by new blighters, but each one not being given the ability to live on as the trigger for a foetus is in effect being murdered by the blokes innability to find someone to mate with
Idiotic premises can be stretched out and have emotive manipulative wordings added to them to pretty much an endless extent, but luckily people with such narrow minded stone age outlooks are the minority and society as a whole doesnt let the cultist minds circumvent the application of common sense and an evolved civilised outlook
But luckily for you youre afforded the right to maintain and practise your view its just a bit of a pityful shame you cant in turn afford other people the exact same common courtesy to live as THEY want without feeling the need to use transparent psychobabble labelling in a pathetic attempt to shock people into buying into such an illinformed ethereal outlook
18 August, 2007 at 5:58 pm #278581human life begins when sperm enters egg
murder is only relevant in the wilful killing of a human
abortion is murder
ethereality18 August, 2007 at 7:14 pm #278582Well that isnt anything even closely resembling a scientific fact, but merely an anti abortionists zealotted fundaMENTALIST viewpoint
A foetus IS scientifically just a collection of cells, nothing more, it has no awareness, cognition or sentience and therefore isnt by any definition “human” merely a collection of human cells
So again taking THAT as the definition of your parody of “murder” cutting hair is murder, clipping toe nails is murder, amputating a limb is murder, removing an organ is murder and removing a tumour is murder as ALL of those are ALSO a collection of human biomatter that is alive under scientific definitions until “aborted”
It would also make switching off a life support machine to someone with zero brain activity murder too btw
The medical definition of when a foetus becomes a “human” is the point where even with intensive care it CAN exist outside of the gestation pouch, until then its merely cells
And until it has a brain and central nervous system its not even a life form of any valid description but medically has more in common with a tumour than a baby
18 August, 2007 at 9:11 pm #278583just admit your wrong
human life begins at conception
your desire to be right is being murdered18 August, 2007 at 10:03 pm #278584LOL, thats not even JUST scraping the bottom of the barrel, thats moving the barrel to one side and scraping the bottom of the six foot hole you dug underneath it in desperation to “win”
Thing is I cant be “wrong”, I also cant be “right” and niether can you but youre just too narrow minded to realise that
Right and wrong are literal words that require an actual factual undisputeable answer, and to this topic and zillions of others there isnt one so there is no such thing as right or wrong, just differing views that at best can only be “believed” to be right by each individual who holds them
Putting that aside tho for a moment, as I wouldnt even see a problem with deformed or disabled babies being put down after birth couldnt really give a toss if people chose to abort their babies as late as the week they were to be born I cant really see what miracle of view alteration youre deludedly expecting to get from me as the topic of abortion is in my mind such a trivial and thoroughly unimportant insignificant act I am never likely to get het up about it
Infact personally I the only real solution I think is workable is compulsory steralisation of all women over 12 with them and their partners then having to apply two years in advance to breed and in that two years having to undergo rigourous testing to ensure they are fit to be allowed to breed AND can support the child
So as thats never likely to happen I think we need more rather than less abortions and it doesnt matter what ridiculous name you call it, infact call it genocide if you like. Renaming something that already has a name doesnt to anyone but morons alter what the thing is
So the different name wont cause any different a reaction or view of the activity just because some moron has thought giving it a “nasty name” ooooooh will suddenly make people see it more negatively as I am most certainly not a moron you simply calling it murder is irrelevant, I would still agree with it if you called abortion murder, treason, rape, shoplifting, infidelity, genocide or genetic experimentation because what YOU call it doesnt alter what it actually is, and thats abortion plain and simple
So the only thing I will admit is that if adding new names to something thinking that achieves something is the best you have I would suggest getting more practise debating topics on the tweenies web site as it would appear to be more on your level
19 August, 2007 at 12:05 pm #278585so many words and so little said
19 August, 2007 at 1:11 pm #278586Relevance is invisible to those incapable of comprehending it
That said tho, you havent actually made ANY contributions to the thread or topic, just childish petty snipes at me thus far which could just as easily have been done via private mail IF it was something valid and worth saying
But instead you chose to post eroneous inanities on a public thread completely nulling the reason the person posted the thread to begin with making your contributions less than nothing
So a some questions,
is the aim here to stop the topic being discussed by grown ups because youre not equiped to join in properly?
Is it because you need the miniscule buzz of a delusion of ego attained from bickering infront of an audience?
Is there some piece of ass on here you’re trying to impress by trying to do the “alpha male” act in the hope of ingratiation and a chance of then face massaging their trout tunnel?
Is there someone less able to contribute youre trying to contribute on behalf of?
Or are you just trying to impress a clique of like”minded” bickers who also have no respect for thread posters on message boards because if your “contributions” are “impressing” anyone at all I would be curious if you have the same carer to help you with things like fastening your velcro trainers and changing your toilet bags personally if your sniping is the epitome of your abilities
So go on, which one of those is REALLY your driving force for this exchange?
Because I cant see an adult sensible explaination for it because they would either involve not posting vaccuous nothingness or would cause you to not “showboat” for whoevr your audience is and you would have just mailed me privately to say you didnt like me lol
Sorry if exceeding the 10 words or less limit meant you cant fathom anything I just wrote, but thats hardly my problem and no amount of whinging and whining like a six year old girl is going to alter my posting style
19 August, 2007 at 1:18 pm #278587Lol @ trout tunnel… :lol:
19 August, 2007 at 1:26 pm #278588empty vessels make most noise
20 August, 2007 at 6:03 pm #278589@r.O.T.T wrote:
empty vessels make most noise
only when you bang them
But on a serious note…..all life is precious, and when I was offered the check for Down’s and spina bifida etc in early pregnancy, i turned it down. The reason I turned it down was that having had the blood test, you then had to have amniocentesis, and there was a risk of miscarriage with that. I didn’t want to lose my baby by testing it to see if it had a condition that they thought I might want to consider an abortion for. I knew that whatever happened, I would love my baby anyway.
How many of you were offered this test, and how many had the test and the amniocentesis? Just idle curiosity :)
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