ABORTION is a woman’s RIGHT

@rubyred wrote:

thanks ugo,,its such an emotional subject for us wimmin folks :)

respect to ya x

p.s can i come with ya in yer big lorry sometime? for a wee trip to Europe? I promise NOT to sit on yer yorkie !

Wahoooooooooooo Ive pulled of course ya can cum with me :P :P :P

only prob is i`ll be away for anything upto a month at a time …… :D

I used to think that abortion was a woman’s absolute right but I have changed my mind. Why? Because an unborn child should have rights too. We don’t have euthanasia, we don’t have capital punishment, we have laws against child abuse yet a viable child can be terminated legally.

I think there is a sliding scale – next-day pill or early stage abortion is OK but as it becomes later it becomes less accepatable. Obviously abortion on medical grounds is acceptable too.

I am not religious – I am a confirmed atheist so my view has come from logical humanist thinking (I think).

The original demand for abortion as a women’s rights issue came from the feminist movement in the late 60’s and early 70’s, so it’s both ironic and sad that one widespread use of abortion now is in Asia (China, India) where parents get rid of baby girls because they’d rather have sons.

Whats always quite comical when this topic gets “discussed” for want of a better word is the absolute lack of any mention of the rights of a father

How come mens rights pretty much ONLY seem to be relevant when the right to pay for a child is being discussed?

And then people seem surprised when fathers actually act like an irrelevant and unimportant part of a childs life lol

DUH! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fairysnuff then

So lets place that into a real life situation for a second to add some rarely examined perspective and balance

Lets suppose youre down the pub with a mate talking about sky tv, when drunk you say you wouldnt mind watching an upcoming film, the next day someone turns up to install sky with the film channels all turned on

You point out you havent ever agreed to have sky nstalled and are told that they know that, your friend decided you should have it, you then tell them you dont want sky installed and they say thats tough, you will have to discuss it with your friend to see if you can get them to agree to have it removed

You do that and they say “nah”, I’ve unilaterally decided you should have sky, you agreed to me making that decision when you mentioned it in the pub, if you didnt want to have sky you shouldnt have said you wanted to watch that film

after which you get a bill every month for the service with no say in whether you wanted it and no easy way to get out of paying for something that SOMEONE ELSE had total control of the decision making process for

I do actually agree that a woman SHOULD have 100% of the control over what happens to her body, after all she IS 100% responsible for getting pregnant after all as she 100% decides that SHE (knowing she has a womb) is going to have sex with someone

Because short of rape IF she decided not to then no matter what decision the bloke made she WOULDNT have got pregnant would she? So a woman already has 100% of the control over what happens to her slime chute and who uses it for recreational activities so it would follow she then has 100% of the say of what comes afterwards as she is the ONLY one responsible for getting herself into that position to begin with

BUT, if the blokes view is that he ONLY agreed to have sex (which he did), and as he doesnt have any say in whether a foetus is aborted (which is in my opinion right) that should then be where his responsibility AND involvement with that foetus ends

If women want to have 100% of the decision about whether a child should be born they should ALSO be prepared to take the same percentage of responsibility for the product of those decisions

I wonder how many would miraculously see an abortion as a much more attractive option IF that was the case?

After all, why on earth should someone be accountable in anyway for the outcome of something that they had no part in the decision making for? But stupid that really

Otherwise, if youre going to claim that a man has no say AND should be responsible for the child produced simply because he agreed to having sex then we shouldnt have abortion at all in instances like that

Because the woman ALSO agreed ONLY to having sex with the man too, as such she should also then be tied by the same idiotic follow on penalty and also have no say in what does or doesnt happen to the foetus

Thats equality, which wimminsey folks allegedly like :lol: :lol: :lol:

In short two people can consent to have sex, two people are responsible for an egg being fertilised, but ONLY one of them has any say in whether a baby is born so ONLY one is responsible for that baby, not two

@ubermik wrote:

OMG I cant believe someone wheeled out the “its a drain on the health serivice” twaddle lol

Some people will sink to any level to try and fashion what they think is a reasonable arguement out of total manure :D:D:D

How much of a “drain” will the non aborted little foetus be on the NHS for the following 9 months? How much of a drain on the school system for the following 16 years? How much of a drain on the NHS’ dental services? How much of a drain on their GP? How much of a drain on public services such as rubhish disposal, playgroups, social services and even the police when its a teenager and in typical single parent offspring stylee starts working on their criminal degree and asbo collection?

Yet you think one friggin abortion is MORe of a drain on public funds than all of that? HAHAHA, some people :lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow when I read your rant I thought you were talking about another post until someone pointed out it was mine lol.

Nowhere did it say it was a drain on the health service, that was your interpretation of “causing a burden on the health system” and an incorrect one. My concern was people using unrestricted abortions as a method of birth control, not one abortion but many per person and many people using it, therefore, causing the health system additional services that it does not need.

“Some people will sink to any level to try and fashion what they think is a reasonable arguement out of total manure “

You give me way too much credit!