A school photo with a difference.

@terry wrote:

What is a fact is that if we left the EU there’d be an enforced homeward-bound mass exodus of Europeans.

We can only dream of that day.

Would there? Where is that stated as fact?
You might dream of that day, I certainly don’t. Just think of all the ex-pats who might be forced to come back to England as a result.

Sorry, I’ve been taken to task here on these boards about facts and source, now it’s your turn.

Where is it stated as a fact Terry?

P.S. I don’t jog anywhere :wink:

@terry wrote:

@jen_jen wrote:

Sorry, I’ve been taken to task here on these boards about facts and source, now it’s your turn.

Where is it stated as a fact Terry?

P.S. I don’t jog anywhere :wink:

Sorry jen, but you’ve never actually relied on facts to get your point across. And if you can’t jog then get yourself a zimmer frame.

Look back on the Europa thread and you’ll find facts and sources.
As for the latter comment, I’ll treat that with the contempt it deserves.

So basically your stated “fact” can’t be proven.

@terry wrote:

. . . . this scoiety. It is doomed to fail. . . . . a hopeless situation. . . . heading for disaster. . . .

Disaster is by no means inevitable.

Is it a matter of numbers? Even If the country is crowded despite the huge amounts of empty space it contains, then isn’t a crowded country where people get on well together a very different kettle of fish from an emptier country where people are at each other’s throats?

When the country was emptier (and outside the EU) and presumably more homogenous, we had wars, famines, poverty, crime, massacres, pestilence, natural and manufactured disasters which make the last 50 years by comparison look like shangri-la.

Indeed historically it wouldn’t be far-fetched to link increasing immigration with increased peace and prosperity. Especially when you consider that we can no longer simply export our criminals and social misfits to other countries.

Terry I understand your feeling that Gordon Brown was to blame, but predictions of disaster linked to relatively multi-ethnic population have been a feature of our political landscape for centuries before Gordon Brown was born Unfortunately the ensuing panics have caused far more misery than the impact of the immigrants.

Bearing in mind what the Saxons did to the Britons, it’s little wonder that fear of immigration is deeply entrenched in the national psyche. However our contact with the rest of the world, although it goes back over millennia, has increased manifold in the last 500 years and the equation immigration = disaster is far too simplistic in a world of global economics and politics.

As for membership of the EU, unless exit per se can absolutely guarantee greater benefits for Britain, we would just be swapping shared disadvantages for indigenous ones. We would be entering unknown territory at the mercy of the same calibre of politicians and business people, as the world has changed greatly since the 1960s.

Disaster would be no more uncertain than if we remained.