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26 July, 2018 at 3:17 pm #1101141
If memory serves me correctly she ( Sophie) had to choose between her son or her daughter to be sent to the gas chamber or they would both be killed, she chose her daughter to be gassed. Could humans be more cruel ? When people say ” they are behaving like animals”, they do animals a disservice. Animals are never so utterly cruel….. and no she couldn’t live with it as she ends up committing suicide. Who could ? Not me.
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29 July, 2018 at 7:36 pm #1101294I hate to try to revive a long-dead thread in case I get reported to Martin by someone but
I can’t help but recommend the following BBC stand-up comedy by my current favourite, Stewart Lee, which is on i-Player, for those able to access it..It lastshalf an hour. It also has subtitles.
He talks about popular books – Dan Brown, Harry Potter, Chris Moyles, Jeremy Clarkson etc.
I find him extremely funny, but I am a-feared that many of you will look at him and not have even a snicker. In fact, if you like Michael MacIntyre and the Apollo comics, you will HATE him.
So I’ve given you fair warning.
But if you love books, literature, well…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00jd8gp/stewart-lees-comedy-vehicle-series-1-1-toilet-books
29 July, 2018 at 9:13 pm #1101301I love Stewart Lee, watched ‘Content Provider ‘ on iPlayer and was howling, he’s a clever man, the novel section was funny as was the remain / leave section. Really funny all of it, well I thought so.
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30 July, 2018 at 1:16 am #1101306Actually , having watched that on the road clip again its not nearly as funny as the live tour… it was a bit contrived the live tour is far funnier and more spontaneous in my opinion
30 July, 2018 at 8:39 am #1101309I don’t agree – about the live tour , that is.
He appears to be spontaneous, but in fact the humour is highly structured, both when he’s talking (live) to an audience in the book show, and when he’s talking live stand-up.
I speak from experience.
My younger son bought two tickets so that we could watch Stewart lee live at a cinema in central London about 14 months before the Content Provider was televised. The humour was generally the same – the brexit/Trump routine, the routine about grandpa and grandma wearing potato masks. He’d developed it a bit – the deported East European migrants working in an Amazon warehouse was new, and part of his slow-burn humour – it took a while to get what he was saying, with his vacant look. He said at the start that he’s been writing it for 18 months ago.
There was spontaneity – the woman shouting that his dvd was worth £5 was taken up and used – but that sketch was itself part of the show we saw.
He copies a US stand-up called Bill Hicks, who died tragically young. The Caspar David Friedrich point at the end (again a repeat form the show we saw) was a version of bill Hicks using the Lone Ranger. If you can catch a Bill Hicks show on youtube, he’s hilarious in the same way.
But Lee does make me howl with laughter too.
30 July, 2018 at 11:10 am #1101324Disagree I’m afraid. He says repeatedly that the jokes are used and how he worked them out and why some don’t work etc , I mean obviously comedians doing a live tour for 18 months will have to have some structure, he also explains all that as well, they don’t just go on stage and make up stuff for 3 hours !! But dealing with a live audience and changing politics etc over 18 months means you have to have a certain amount of spontaneity when doing observational comedy, unlike comedians who literally just spout lame jokes out one after the other. I’ve seen Bill Hicks, there is a similarity and I’m sure all comedians will use / alter ideas from others but I’d hardly say he copies him, that sounds derogatory. He has spontaneity all decent comics have to be naturally funny and quick witted.
30 July, 2018 at 11:11 am #1101325If memory serves me correctly she ( Sophie) had to choose between her son or her daughter to be sent to the gas chamber or they would both be killed, she chose her daughter to be gassed. Could humans be more cruel ? When people say ” they are behaving like animals”, they do animals a disservice. Animals are never so utterly cruel….. and no she couldn’t live with it as she ends up committing suicide. Who could ? Not me.
That scene was harrowing.
30 July, 2018 at 4:19 pm #1101339here is book what them printer trolls buy, that is how they are so clever and mentally stable…….
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30 July, 2018 at 4:25 pm #1101341god sake i am getting told off for typing to fast lol, no need to SHOUT AT ME SYSTEM!
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31 July, 2018 at 11:41 am #1101351I just read a scary email from a friend’s friend.
This has been building up for some time…not sure when it started.
Without giving surnames, here is the mail :-
‘On Friday just gone I was invited to an open mic night for a poetry and literature evening at the newly refurbished flagship library in Forest Gate in the London Borough of Newham. The library, known as “The Gate”, also makes claim to be the centre of community and cultura interest for the good people of Forest Gate and the surrounding area, providing coffee, tea, cakes, art exhibitions, performance art and lively social debate.
I had decided for the open mic night to perform two sonnets by Shakespeare and an excerpt from Richard III. On arriving at The Gate and awaiting my turn to perform, I thought — seeing as I was in such an impressive flagship library — that I would use the time by reading up a bit more on Shakespeare.
However, I couldn’t find the Shakespeare section and after several attempts asked one of the librarians, ” Excuse me, could you show me where the Shakespeare section is, please?”
This was her reply: “Is that the name of the book or the author?”
I incredulously replied, “Shakespeare!”
The librarian then said, “Yes, I heard what you said, but can you give me some more information?”
So I told her, “Oh, it’s okay. Don’t worry,” and set off to look for myself again; but as before there was no Shakespeare section to be found.
So now I asked what looked like an older women who seemed to have an air of authority about her.
Again I asked, “Excuse me, where is the Shakespeare section?”
Astonishingly, this women also asked, “Is that the author? “I walked away without saying anything else, as this was now seeming a tad surreal and I was wondering if perhaps some random leftover drop of mushroom tea from my last trip at Glastonbury had decided to kick in.
When my friend Chris, an former grammar-school teacher, arrived to see me perform, I told him what had happened and, laughing with his hand over his mouth, he said, “Gary, don’t start winding me up”
He didn’t believe me and after I’d insisted several times that I was telling the truth, he set off to find the manager.
He came back after a few minutes, white-faced with astonishment, and so I asked him what the manager had said. Chris then told me,” Not only is there no Shakespeare in the entire library, neither is there any Charles Dickens.”
We both sat there staring at each other, not really knowing if we should laugh or cry.
Still…. Shakespeare and Dickens can hardly be considered to be up there with the greats … can they?’
When the culture’s over, turn out the lights.
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