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I dont think many people disbelieved the official story even upto a year after 9/11, but in the last 3/4 years, people have been exposing it, now it seems like its more 50 -50.
Did the US gov have anything whatsoever to do with 9/11?
No steel structured building has ever collapsed due to fire, except buildings 1, 2 and 7.
Building 7 fell exactly like a demolision, it was a militarised building, hosting a military bunker for Mayor Juliani who didnt use it, prefering somewhere less safe, it also had papers about previous doggy wall street dealings inside. Both the BBC and CNN, reporter LIVE 20 and 45 mins before it fell, that it was going to fall, or that it did fall.
The greatest military power known to man kind still havn’t found Bin Laden in 5 years.
The Bush family were/are friends with Bin Laden, a CIA agent met him 5 weeks before 9/11 in an American hospital in Dubia.
The war in Iraq happened due to a lie about WMD’s. Hitler staged a bomb attack to get the publics backing to wage war.
There are no dont know answers in this one, do you believe, or dont you?
I believe you’re off your rocker… :D
@emmalush wrote:
The war in Iraq happened due to a lie about WMD’s. Hitler staged a bomb attack to get the publics backing to wage war.
There are no dont know answers in this one, do you believe, or dont you?
Hitler staged a bomb attack to get the public’s backing? Emma, you must be on the magic mushrooms again
I beleive there wasn’t enough done but thats a whole other story :?
I believe this thread is 10 years too late.
i believe in Jesus.
cos i know he wants me for a sunbeam.
now……. where’s that trolley?
@emmalush wrote:
I dont think many people disbelieved the official story even upto a year after 9/11, but in the last 3/4 years, people have been exposing it, now it seems like its more 50 -50.
Did the US gov have anything whatsoever to do with 9/11?
No steel structured building has ever collapsed due to fire, except buildings 1, 2 and 7.
Building 7 fell exactly like a demolision, it was a militarised building, hosting a military bunker for Mayor Juliani who didnt use it, prefering somewhere less safe, it also had papers about previous doggy wall street dealings inside. Both the BBC and CNN, reporter LIVE 20 and 45 mins before it fell, that it was going to fall, or that it did fall.
The greatest military power known to man kind still havn’t found Bin Laden in 5 years.
The Bush family were/are friends with Bin Laden, a CIA agent met him 5 weeks before 9/11 in an American hospital in Dubia.
The war in Iraq happened due to a lie about WMD’s. Hitler staged a bomb attack to get the publics backing to wage war.
There are no dont know answers in this one, do you believe, or dont you?
I believe it’s at least possible that the US Government knew it was coming and didnt do enough to prevent it.
There are a few false points here though.
The Twin Towers WERENT the first Steel structured buildings in history to collapse due to fire. There’s been a few Steel buildings that have fallen due to fire. They werent high rise buildings, but it shows the damage that fire can have on Steel.
It’s also true that no other high rise fire in history resulted from it being hit by a 757 travelling at 500mph, removing it’s fire proofing.This entire 9/11 thing is a secret plot by the BNP to try to gain a few more seats in the May local elections. OK so it happened in the US several years ago … but who ever said the BNP wasn’t into long term planning?
Some-one/body did very well out of it……….9 – 11
A few strange facts seem to exist that I’d like to know :?:
Jet fuel burns at 1800f and steel melts at 2500f (Thats 700f difference) a substantial amount, The black smoke pouring from the building/s before collapse suggest’s the fires were starved of oxygen, Hence making 1800f non acheivable :?:
Building 7 not attached (all 47 storeys high) fell perfectly (to the ground) with no significant fires in it :?:
Larry Silverstien It’s owner is 7 Billion dollars better off :?:
Some things talk a lot more than words
I can paste the answer to the Jet Fuel thing.
“Jet fuel burns at 800° to 1500°F, not hot enough to melt steel (2750°F). However, experts agree that for the towers to collapse, their steel frames didn’t need to melt, they just had to lose some of their structural strength–and that required exposure to much less heat. “I have never seen melted steel in a building fire,” says retired New York deputy fire chief Vincent Dunn, author of The Collapse Of Burning Buildings: A Guide To Fireground Safety. “But I’ve seen a lot of twisted, warped, bent and sagging steel. What happens is that the steel tries to expand at both ends, but when it can no longer expand, it sags and the surrounding concrete cracks.”
“Steel loses about 50 percent of its strength at 1100°F,” notes senior engineer Farid Alfawak-hiri of the American Institute of Steel Construction. “And at 1800° it is probably at less than 10 percent.” NIST also believes that a great deal of the spray-on fireproofing insulation was likely knocked off the steel beams that were in the path of the crashing jets, leaving the metal more vulnerable to the heat.
But jet fuel wasn’t the only thing burning, notes Forman Williams, a professor of engineering at the University of California, San Diego, and one of seven structural engineers and fire experts that PM consulted. He says that while the jet fuel was the catalyst for the WTC fires, the resulting inferno was intensified by the combustible material inside the buildings, including rugs, curtains, furniture and paper. NIST reports that pockets of fire hit 1832°F.
“The jet fuel was the ignition source,” Williams tells PM. “It burned for maybe 10 minutes, and [the towers] were still standing in 10 minutes. It was the rest of the stuff burning afterward that was responsible for the heat transfer that eventually brought them down.”
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