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16 December, 2011 at 11:50 pm #485192
@thin ice wrote:
@rubyred wrote:
Bonjour J in France.. I come from Scotland in the united kingdom. without the NHS we could have privatation. like America ? where doctors go through pockets of the dying to see of they have insurance?? we have a good idea of illness and free health service. should my children or grandchildren need health service.?we have it. I can go into any hospital in the U.k. i would never wish this bad, as its an excellent service. I suppose if i was rich i might jump the queue. I have no wish to make myself anymore a victim than the next person .
we are all equal be it here in sunny scotland and en francais.. vive le auld alliance :)no not equal
the scots live a un healthy existance
they get free prescritions
payed for by english tax payersI get free drugs whatever govrnment was in power.. thyroxene ! its free for all..
16 December, 2011 at 11:56 pm #485193@thin ice wrote:
if only it was as simple as the nhs was there for the working class
the trouble with the nhs and
the benitfit system
is that this country has an under class
they dont work
their parents dont work
and most likely neither did their grant parents
malingerers and scroungers
they dont work
they dont pay tax
they just rape the benifit system
and thats why the nhs is starved of cash resulting in cra p service
not enough paying in
too many taking out
its a very simple to equation :roll:So what is your solution to this ‘problem’?
Create extermination camps like Adolf Hitler did to rid his society of the type of people you describe?
Send kids out to work at 10 years old and raise the retirement age to 75?
not
17 December, 2011 at 12:06 am #485194@j_in_france wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
if only it was as simple as the nhs was there for the working class
the trouble with the nhs and
the benitfit system
is that this country has an under class
they dont work
their parents dont work
and most likely neither did their grant parents
malingerers and scroungers
they dont work
they dont pay tax
they just rape the benifit system
and thats why the nhs is starved of cash resulting in cra p service
not enough paying in
too many taking out
its a very simple to equation :roll:So what is your solution to this ‘problem’?
Create extermination camps like Adolf Hitler did to rid his society of the type of people you describe?
Send kids out to work at 10 years old and raise the retirement age to 75?
not
thats a very imature reply j
17 December, 2011 at 12:11 am #485195yep! as soon as you go from addressing the problem to insulting the reply, you lose!
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17 December, 2011 at 12:11 am #485196@thin ice wrote:
@j_in_france wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
if only it was as simple as the nhs was there for the working class
the trouble with the nhs and
the benitfit system
is that this country has an under class
they dont work
their parents dont work
and most likely neither did their grant parents
malingerers and scroungers
they dont work
they dont pay tax
they just rape the benifit system
and thats why the nhs is starved of cash resulting in cra p service
not enough paying in
too many taking out
its a very simple to equation :roll:So what is your solution to this ‘problem’?
Create extermination camps like Adolf Hitler did to rid his society of the type of people you describe?
Send kids out to work at 10 years old and raise the retirement age to 75?
not
thats a very imature reply j
as really was yours thin but hey pot kettle black
17 December, 2011 at 6:00 am #485197and thank goodness for the trade unions who stopped all this…
17 December, 2011 at 8:48 am #485198@j_in_france wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
@j_in_france wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
if only it was as simple as the nhs was there for the working class
the trouble with the nhs and
the benitfit system
is that this country has an under class
they dont work
their parents dont work
and most likely neither did their grant parents
malingerers and scroungers
they dont work
they dont pay tax
they just rape the benifit system
and thats why the nhs is starved of cash resulting in cra p service
not enough paying in
too many taking out
its a very simple to equation :roll:So what is your solution to this ‘problem’?
Create extermination camps like Adolf Hitler did to rid his society of the type of people you describe?
Send kids out to work at 10 years old and raise the retirement age to 75?
not
thats a very imature reply j
as really was yours thin but hey pot kettle black
yes actually j mine was
what i said is a statement of fact
unfortunatley thats how many people really are
but to bring hitler in to the disscussion is plain stupid17 December, 2011 at 10:35 am #485199@thin ice wrote:
@thin ice wrote:
if only it was as simple as the nhs was there for the working class
the trouble with the nhs and
the benitfit system
is that this country has an under class
they dont work
their parents dont work
and most likely neither did their grant parents
malingerers and scroungers
they dont work
they dont pay tax
they just rape the benifit system
and thats why the nhs is starved of cash resulting in cra p service
not enough paying in
too many taking out
its a very simple to equation :roll:yes actually j mine was
what i said is a statement of fact
unfortunatley thats how many people really are
but to bring hitler in to the disscussion is plain stupidso you will be able to give us sources for these facts?
The creation of the NHS and what it represents for the people of Britain is very interesting beginning with the National Insurance Act of 1946 which created the structure of the welfare state and the National Health Service Act of 1948 which provided free healthcare to the people of Britain
17 December, 2011 at 10:50 am #485200i dont need to scroll around to find the facts to post
you dont need to be a genious to know that many people dont work and have no intention of doing so
and that they have been brought up in an environment where most of their family are in the same boat
you dont need to be a genious to know that many not tax paying foreigns use the nhs
its common knowledge the nhs is cash starved
bottom line
not enough money going in
if less people stopped raping the system
then it would be in a better state of affairs
it aint rocket science mush17 December, 2011 at 2:37 pm #485201Mrs T i work with people with all the stages of dementia, the things i have seen and heard of are disgusting,the nurses in the hopsitals have no idea of the illness,ive seen dogs get better treatment.About 6 years ago i was involved in a legal case where a registared mental nurse left her position.I told the medical council then that nurses who are doing there training needed more practical experiance with regards dementia.That fell on deaf ears.Its the same with CQC inspectors all they are bothered about is the paper work, never mind the patient, and CQC recently got a blasting for failing
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