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16 December, 2011 at 5:03 pm #485182
. . . . limbers up and practises his fireman’s lift . . . . . .
16 December, 2011 at 5:14 pm #485183In some countries nursing is just that, the provision of medical care, they don’t even provide food. It is up to the patient and/or their family to ensure that their non-medical needs like food and personal hygiene are met. While I wouldn’t like to see that happen in the UK, it’s easy to lambast the NHS when things do go wrong and say it should be scrapped but that would be throwing out the baby with the bathwater, far better to look at what is going wrong and work to put it right. Of course with the scale of the NHS, there will always be things that go wrong, umbrage to be taken, and often quite rightly so, but as Words says, the NHS also does a lot of good work that goes unrecognised.
I have a group of friends who have had breast cancer. Some were treated privately, some NHS. The ones who were treated privately got quicker appointments, speedier treatment, plush hospital rooms, but treatment was “fragmented” as they got passed from one consultant to the next for the next stage of their treatment, almost like a pass the parcel, and constant uncertainty as to what their medical insurance would and wouldn’t cover, whether they were still within the limits, etc. The treatment was also for the body only with no counselling support offered. The ones treated by the NHS were treated by a team who worked together and offered a consistency of approach throughout the treatment and a holistic approach, offering full support for the patient and the close relatives. Guess which group felt more positive and optimistic about their treatment and recovery?
It’s easy to slate the NHS when things go wrong but should I, heaven forbid, find myself in dire need of treatment I know where I’d rather go.
16 December, 2011 at 9:06 pm #485184I hope it’s not time to dump the NHS……. the staff and the treatment I have received over the years has been excellent………There is nothing I would want to complain about.
16 December, 2011 at 10:13 pm #485185This is a joke right ?? abandon the NHS that was set up for the working classes and the poor. ffs. I HAVE A great Doctor in both Ninewells ( dundee) and a brilliant Doc in the Royal Marsden. Without the National health , my babies would have never been born and i woud never have received MRI scans against an illness that is common after Breast Cancer. ..
does everyone on here agree ??
16 December, 2011 at 10:48 pm #485186The NHS is always a topic that will draw differing opinions from all sides. The negative aspects will often be highlighted far more than the positive ones.
I have had both good and bad experiences of the NHS, and of a surgeon restricted by targets from performing an operation who did the operation privately for which he never sent an invoice. The massive majority of people on the caring side of the NHS treat what they do as a vocation and not just a job and go that mile further in trying to help others.
The management side of the NHS probably needs a major overhaul and if the NHS is to be expected to treat people outside their remit then training needs to be given. I saw an interesting comment today that care homes have been closing when the owners found they could get more to house homeless immigrants – whether that is true or not I have no idea.
16 December, 2011 at 11:16 pm #485187Bonjour J in France.. I come from Scotland in the united kingdom. without the NHS we could have privatation. like America ? where doctors go through pockets of the dying to see of they have insurance?? we have a good idea of illness and free health service. should my children or grandchildren need health service.?we have it. I can go into any hospital in the U.k. i would never wish this bad, as its an excellent service. I suppose if i was rich i might jump the queue. I have no wish to make myself anymore a victim than the next person .
we are all equal be it here in sunny scotland and en francais.. vive le auld alliance :)16 December, 2011 at 11:41 pm #485188if only it was as simple as the nhs was there for the working class
the trouble with the nhs and
the benitfit system
is that this country has an under class
they dont work
their parents dont work
and most likely neither did their grant parents
malingerers and scroungers
they dont work
they dont pay tax
they just rape the benifit system
and thats why the nhs is starved of cash resulting in cra p service
not enough paying in
too many taking out
its a very simple to equation :roll:16 December, 2011 at 11:42 pm #485189Ruby, although we live in France we are British, but from south of the border to you. All my comments were about the British NHS of which we have a lot and continuing experience of.
16 December, 2011 at 11:47 pm #485190@rubyred wrote:
Bonjour J in France.. I come from Scotland in the united kingdom. without the NHS we could have privatation. like America ? where doctors go through pockets of the dying to see of they have insurance?? we have a good idea of illness and free health service. should my children or grandchildren need health service.?we have it. I can go into any hospital in the U.k. i would never wish this bad, as its an excellent service. I suppose if i was rich i might jump the queue. I have no wish to make myself anymore a victim than the next person .
we are all equal be it here in sunny scotland and en francais.. vive le auld alliance :)no not equal
the scots live a un healthy existance
they get free prescritions
payed for by english tax payers16 December, 2011 at 11:48 pm #485191Bon Soir j in France :) i too have paid my national health contributions. have worked all my life.x
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