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22 January, 2010 at 7:00 pm #429207
We can only go on what the reporters are saying in the press. What Pete’s posted is what the Judge said in court.
These children are ferrel kids, their home life is described as TOXIC, witnessing family disfunction , able to play violent games on pc’s, given cannabis to make them sleep.
They have been brought up to witness violence. Its documented that they said what they did was because they had nowt else to do. These children only know how to make people suffer.
They are not born that way they are taught it by parents, family quardians.22 January, 2010 at 9:15 pm #429208Unless there is a genuine mental disorder, no child is born like this, they are born innocent and undamaged and untouched, yes everyone is born with their own personality, some people are naturally calmer, angrier, and so on and so forth, but it is how they are bought up that either fuels the negative traits or fuels the positive traits that each and everyone of us posess. A naturally angry child needs teaching that this behaviour is wrong, and most toddlers have “angry tantrums” so yes its in all of us, its how we are taught to behave and how to control these basic urges that make us decent human beings both child and adult, rather than animals its what defines us from animals. And as nemesis said the parents should not only be done for child neglect but maybe even for abetting this horiffic crime for not making sure this didnt happen. They knew what they were like by the previous warnings they had had for mindless violence, also the care services after these warnings should have stepped in to ensure it was addressed. As nemesis stated if it was a dog which is how they and the parents have behaved no better than rabid dogs the dog would have been destroyed and the owner(parents) would have been charged.
22 January, 2010 at 10:19 pm #429209You only have to read Lord of the Flies to know that that isn’t strictly true
22 January, 2010 at 10:32 pm #429210I can not in any way show any feeings at at all to the boys that did this, these boys will get the best care, the best psychatric and counselling services whilst the families of their victims will have to fight for anywhere near the same care, the victims of these boys crimes will live with it for the REST OF THEIR LIVES!!! make no mistake people the victims of the vile attack laid on them will not rest ever!! the boys who did it? new identities, chance for a ‘normal life’ ?
Toxic life at home? no excuse!!!!
23 January, 2010 at 8:26 am #429211@nemesis wrote:
If those kids were dogs they would have been destroyed, and the adults prosecuted.
It appears the attackers didn`t get much of a chance of a decent, or even bloody normal childhood, having been surrounded by violence, drugs and alcohol. I pray to God that someone can help these children, and I think the parents should be charged with child abuse. I do not have any sympathy for the attackers, but they didn`t have much to model themselves on did they? I think the parents here, are at the core of this, I think they should be prosecuted for child abuse and neglect.
lots of other kids had simular up bringings and went on to achieve great things
23 January, 2010 at 11:22 am #429212@cath 55 wrote:
I can not in any way show any feeings at at all to the boys that did this, these boys will get the best care, the best psychatric and counselling services whilst the families of their victims will have to fight for anywhere near the same care, the victims of these boys crimes will live with it for the REST OF THEIR LIVES!!! make no mistake people the victims of the vile attack laid on them will not rest ever!! the boys who did it? new identities, chance for a ‘normal life’ ?
Toxic life at home? no excuse!!!!
Agreed Cath =D> =D> =D> and well said!!!
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