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29 September, 2007 at 10:32 pm #8147
A boy of ten who claims to have been attacked by a Slovakian woman with an iron bar could be charged with inciting racial hatred, it emerged last night.
Jake Stedman admitted that the woman hit him after he threw a berry at her and told her to ‘go back to her own country’.
The Slovakian woman involved, 35, was arrested and could face assault charges.
Jake Stedman was found in a pool of blood after insulting the woman in her 20s.
He says she chased him down an alleyway before repeatedly striking him on the head and back with the 2ft pipe as he cowered on the floor, leaving him with two black eyes.
His mother, Amanda Stedman, 29, from Chatham, Kent, said: “I came running out the house and saw him lying in a pool of blood crying.
“He was completely in shock – he’s just a little boy.
“I know he can misbehave and he’s easily led but for this to happen is outrageous.”
About a third of around 400 pupils at the school are believed to be Slovakian-born.
British children had complained of being bullied by the Slovakian pupils, who they said had told them: “We only play with our own kind.”
One parent at the school, who did not wish to be named, said: “When the parents come and collect their children, the Slovakians stand on one side of the playground and we stand on the other.
“It is a bit like a stand-off.”
Luton Junior School in Chatham is so riven by racial tension after an influx of Slovakian and other eastern-European children that four police patrol the gates every day.
One resident, English mother Candice Smith, 30, claimed her son William had twice been chased and threatened by Slovakian children and their parents.
Carla Spanton, said “Our kids are being threatened with having their throats slit.
“It’s happening every day but no one is taking any notice.
“This used to be a good school but it’s not any more.”
Father-of-one Shane Treeby added: “The trouble is going to spill over and it’s going to happen soon.
“There’s been a load of attacks recently in and around the school with gangs of Slovakians going round beating up the local kids.
“That boy getting hit was just one example, but there’s stabbings and all sorts round here which is not getting reported.”
The incident comes after last week’s admission by police that the influx of immigrants to Britain is placing a huge strain on resources.
29 September, 2007 at 10:41 pm #289205this is just another bloody typical incident happening every day here in our so called multicultural bleeding heart britain. next thing will be the banning of racist english kids from said school. pissed off doesnt describe the way i feel about this abortion of a country nowadays. when did we stop being a nation and start being a state ???
welcome home emmalush :wink:29 September, 2007 at 10:52 pm #289206ffs im scared to come back to England,,,all these ” pools of blood” …
blinking heck,,!!
30 September, 2007 at 12:41 am #289207As much as I dont agree with many aspects of our immigration policy I dont think thats the main topic in this thread
Just because he was beaten by an “immigrant” doesnt really impinge on this at all IMO
The basic facts here that are being clouded by pointing out she is an immigrant is that the kid is a disrespectful little sh-it
Had he done the same to some elderly white british born bloke who had then reacted in the exact same way the real facts wouldnt have changed, it just wouldnt have been able to be clouded with eroneous and unimportant information about immigrants
And as much of an over reaction as it MIGHT have been perhaps that one action might teach him the respect he obviously hasnt been taught by his parents
Suppose he hadnt had the crap beaten out of him, what then? That teaches him he can throw things at people and call them names with no recourse, and he is ONLY 10 FFS
Anyone want to take a stab at what hes likely to be like at 15 if he consistently got away with things like that? And at 20?
But suppose every single time he threw something at someone or called them names they beat the crap out of the little twat what then? Chances are hes going to lose interest in that particular pastime pretty quickly I’d bet
Infact if you look at a lot of countries or rural areas in many countries the world over thats exactly what would happen to a kid doing that, perhaps not quite as bad and not with a piece of pipe lol, but a beating nonetheless, and if they then go and tell mummy what happened and why then mummy would give them another pasting
And quel surpris, they dont have as much violent youth crime as us, well duh! :D
30 September, 2007 at 4:51 pm #289208totally agree there uber, i live in a small village and pretty well know most children and their parents here. i caught a young un drawing with chalk on my last car, was not impressed and he got a smacked ear and taken home to mum, who also got an earbashing for not knowing where her 4 year old son was [she lives 2 streets away]. upshot is kid scared shitless for 5 mins mum told off job sorted no cops no courts no bother. this would be unacceptable should we have lived in a town and not known who he belonged to ? its farsical to me if we all took more notice of our neighbours and waved now and again it helps break the barriers down. it aint rocket science but i feel for people living in these sink estates and city centres.
30 September, 2007 at 6:54 pm #289209@ubermik wrote:
As much as I dont agree with many aspects of our immigration policy I dont think thats the main topic in this thread
Just because he was beaten by an “immigrant” doesnt really impinge on this at all IMO
The basic facts here that are being clouded by pointing out she is an immigrant is that the kid is a disrespectful little sh-it
Had he done the same to some elderly white british born bloke who had then reacted in the exact same way the real facts wouldnt have changed, it just wouldnt have been able to be clouded with eroneous and unimportant information about immigrants
And as much of an over reaction as it MIGHT have been perhaps that one action might teach him the respect he obviously hasnt been taught by his parents
Suppose he hadnt had the crap beaten out of him, what then? That teaches him he can throw things at people and call them names with no recourse, and he is ONLY 10 FFS
Anyone want to take a stab at what hes likely to be like at 15 if he consistently got away with things like that? And at 20?
But suppose every single time he threw something at someone or called them names they beat the crap out of the little fish what then? Chances are hes going to lose interest in that particular pastime pretty quickly I’d bet
Infact if you look at a lot of countries or rural areas in many countries the world over thats exactly what would happen to a kid doing that, perhaps not quite as bad and not with a piece of pipe lol, but a beating nonetheless, and if they then go and tell mummy what happened and why then mummy would give them another pasting
And quel surpris, they dont have as much violent youth crime as us, well duh! :D
Partly agree- any little gobshy/te deserves what he gets if he/she acts like this- it will make him/her think twice about doing it again- zero tolerance would create a much better society in time.
However, I assume Emma’s point is (well rather the copy n paste article she’s just posted) this.
Had this been in reverse and it was a 10 year old Slovakian gobshy/te who had told a 20 year old Luton woman (dont care what colour the 20 year old Luton woman was) to “f*ck off” or something similar and the 20 year old had beaten the little gobshy/te Slovak, the outcome would, in all likelihood, be different.
And that I assume is the point of the post- indigenous (and for Emma’s sake, I mean ALL Britons not just white ones) people are becoming increasingly concerned with the imbablance of a country which does not treat everyone as equal but in fact treats Britons with less respect than non Britons.
When a British Muslim peer says the BNP has a valid point on UNCONTROLLED immigration, perhaps it is time to take stock of how this impacts on specific areas of the country and how all indigenous populations feel?
30 September, 2007 at 8:35 pm #289210@slayer wrote:
@ubermik wrote:
As much as I dont agree with many aspects of our immigration policy I dont think thats the main topic in this thread
Just because he was beaten by an “immigrant” doesnt really impinge on this at all IMO
The basic facts here that are being clouded by pointing out she is an immigrant is that the kid is a disrespectful little sh-it
Had he done the same to some elderly white british born bloke who had then reacted in the exact same way the real facts wouldnt have changed, it just wouldnt have been able to be clouded with eroneous and unimportant information about immigrants
And as much of an over reaction as it MIGHT have been perhaps that one action might teach him the respect he obviously hasnt been taught by his parents
Suppose he hadnt had the crap beaten out of him, what then? That teaches him he can throw things at people and call them names with no recourse, and he is ONLY 10 FFS
Anyone want to take a stab at what hes likely to be like at 15 if he consistently got away with things like that? And at 20?
But suppose every single time he threw something at someone or called them names they beat the crap out of the little fish what then? Chances are hes going to lose interest in that particular pastime pretty quickly I’d bet
Infact if you look at a lot of countries or rural areas in many countries the world over thats exactly what would happen to a kid doing that, perhaps not quite as bad and not with a piece of pipe lol, but a beating nonetheless, and if they then go and tell mummy what happened and why then mummy would give them another pasting
And quel surpris, they dont have as much violent youth crime as us, well duh! :D
Partly agree- any little gobshy/te deserves what he gets if he/she acts like this- it will make him/her think twice about doing it again- zero tolerance would create a much better society in time.
However, I assume Emma’s point is (well rather the copy n paste article she’s just posted) this.
Had this been in reverse and it was a 10 year old Slovakian gobshy/te who had told a 20 year old Luton woman (dont care what colour the 20 year old Luton woman was) to “f*ck off” or something similar and the 20 year old had beaten the little gobshy/te Slovak, the outcome would, in all likelihood, be different.
And that I assume is the point of the post- indigenous (and for Emma’s sake, I mean ALL Britons not just white ones) people are becoming increasingly concerned with the imbablance of a country which does not treat everyone as equal but in fact treats Britons with less respect than non Britons.
When a British Muslim peer says the BNP has a valid point on UNCONTROLLED immigration, perhaps it is time to take stock of how this impacts on specific areas of the country and how all indigenous populations feel?
But I’m not sure that actually IS the point of this article tho, or if it was it didnt really stand out to me at all
If this had been an immigrant child I cant see how thats any different, the way I see it is this
The child initiated the fracass, as is commonly the case irrespective of race thats being ignored and his “childish innocence” is being crooned about as tho the attack happend for NO reason, out of the blue, or as tho anything kids do should just be ignored and tolerated
Nowhere does it in anyway I noticed point out the “soon to be yob” behaviour in much of a negative sense of point out how wrong it was
Also, equally irrespective of race the butt of the throwing and insults race doesnt matter as offence will be pretty much universal
So the real facts of the incident arent connected in any important way to race, immigration or culture
They are simply that a brat with no respect for adults (or not ALL adults at least) abused an adult who beat the crap out of them
Thats the brass tacks synopsis, which was then padded out with the other 90% of the article being a soap box to whinge and whine about immigration and immigrants even tho its not related to this actual incident at all
Its no more a blatant and pathetic use of a story to push a political agenda than it would be had the races been reversed and it was used as a soap box to tell us how racist all us whities are towards poor ickle fluffy minorities
Same pathetic way of using an inconsequential story to push a racism related agenda, its just that the party with no actual ideals is now swinging to the other end of the spectrum to get votes so its an inverse of whats been the norm for the last 10 years now theyve realised minority worshipping isnt the social pannacea anymore and is losing them votes rather than gaining them
Infact before it goes into its almost religiously zealous pontification about immigration it doesnt even conclusively say the woman IS an immigrant, merely that she is or might be slovakian. So for all we know she might have been born here anyway even tho thats irrelevant to the actual incident anyway
Infact it doesnt even seem to be able to decide on here age let alone her nationality
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The Slovakian woman involved, 35, was arrested and could face assault charges.Jake Stedman was found in a pool of blood after insulting the woman in her 20s.
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??Since when (except on an internet dating site) has 35 been in someones 20’s? hahaha :lol:
So to me this story is about a child (race unimportant) whos a cheeky brat that threw things at and then mouthed off insultingly at an adult (race unimportant) who then POSSIBLY overreacted and beat the crap out of the little runt
Its also about a parent who not only seems oblivious to her little daaaaarlings wrongdoing, but considering the nature of the insults is probably the cause of it and shares the same view herself as it seems
Bringing issues like race or immigration into matters like this ISNT equality, as equality would look at and view the incident on its actual merits slayer, and WOULDNT seek to cloud it and taint opinion by trying to justify the individual instance by means of saying “well immigration is a mess so why shouldnt he abuse foreigners” or ny saying “foreigners beat our kids up with iron bars, we should be cracking down on immigration” which are the undertones here
A brat got gobby, someone battered him, thats the story here as far as I’m concerned and the races involved are immaterial
A year ago a story like this would have been being criticised as BNP fueled minority bashing but now its almost politically correct but in niether instance nor where the white was overly villified and “racism” was the main issue being discussed does it even resemble a faint estimation of “equality”
1 October, 2007 at 7:25 pm #289211Is throwing a berry and a verbal slagging by a 10 year old reason for an adult to attack with an iron bar?
It is an immigrant story, because the difference in culture states clearly ONCE again that multiculturalism doesn’t work.
1 October, 2007 at 7:31 pm #289212this happened in my town, my nephew goes to school with the little boy. the area has always been a little rough but it really does come to something when a little boy is beaten by a grown woman with an iron bar!!
i didn’t read the story, i heard it from my sister -in-law though and from what i heard it was the boy’s second confrontation with the woman.
this woman(along with others) had before pushed the young lad over for no reason at all and had already thrown a brick at this boy’s friend before.
personally the fact that she is an immigrant isn’t the problem. she was an adult assaulting a child and should be put in prison for a long time. unfortunately the court system is so shyte she’ll be out within a couple of months if she gets given time at all.
1 October, 2007 at 7:34 pm #289213@emmalush wrote:
Is throwing a berry and a verbal slagging by a 10 year old reason for an adult to attack with an iron bar?
It is an immigrant story, because the difference in culture states clearly ONCE again that multiculturalism doesn’t work.
Its only an immigrant story IF youre claiming that its totally impossible for a white british person to be equally pissed off at being insulted by some snivelling yobby gobshyte and react in the exact same way
If youre NOT going to try and claim that no white british person would EVER react in this way then the incident itself has nothing to do with the origins of the two people involved, but HAS been supplanted by the unrelated immigrant biased surrounding rhetoric
Infact its AS MUCH to do with our culture and british parents innability to raise kids that can behave and show respect to strangers IF you want to choose to view it with a racist slant
After all, she didnt beat the crap out of the little scrote for no reason, she also DIDNT beat the crap out of the little tosser because its part of slovakian culture to do so
She beat the crap out of the yapping little twat BECAUSE he threw things at her and insulted her
Things we DONT know here and that are obviously being classed as irrelevant are these
IS she even an immigrant?
Does she even live here or was she just here visiting?
Was the described incident the ONLY instance? Or one in a series of repeated instances of abuse either from him or other scummy white kids in the area?
Is it infact part of slovakian culture to beat the crap out of kids just for the heck of it?
Had this been a white woman beating up a black or asian kid I dont for one second think you would have been looking at the situation in the exact same way, I however would have because it STILL would have been a woman beating the crap out of a cheeky disrespectful little scrotebag who initiated the exchange to begin with
Infact what it DOES state quite clearly is that people are starting to reach the end of their tether with unruly kids who think they can, and where the law is concerned pretty much can get away with pretty much anything at all
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