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  • #994854

    If we give £350 million a week to the EU, of which £161 million comes back

    where is the £350 million coming from to spend on the NHS, which Brexiteers like Boris and Michael Gove are promising?

    Hint, they are lying.

    #994867

    Sums was never my strong point but I’m voting out. :good:

    #994868

    IVE always found as an ex teacher,and now a magician,the knowing the mystical powers and knowing the mystical knowledge of the number 9 helps
    just saying like

    #994871

    Mystical or not, I think that in this little game, it’s nothing to do with numbers in the end.

    The out people are lying – funny, that isn’t it?

    #994872

    yes I was the was that maths teacher,who had to explain to the kids
    “but you need maths”
    confronted by angry pupils when I was trying to drive my renault 5 home
    banging on the windows “sir sir why do we need maths you c”nt
    im like yeh worever
    do you know you try and help people and they throw it in your face?

    #994888

    Another unintentionally funny post which also gets it basic facts wrong. Ironically and hilariously given the title.

    The EU bill to the UK (2015) was 18 billion. 5 billion of that is never directly paid because a 5 billion ‘rebate’ is instantly applied.

    That leaves a bill of 13 billion minus the rebate. EU spending on the UK was 4.5 billion, therefore the UK paid a net contribution of 8.5 billion.

    A net contribution of 8.5 billion is 23 million pounds a day. 161 million a week. (Not 189 million as the ‘poster’ suggests)

    However include the initial rebate 5 billion and EU spending 4.5 billion which was removed from the net figure of 8.5 billion and the picture changes drastically.

    350 million a week in that context is entirely accurate and is not in fact based on Brexit made up figures, but figures from both the ONS and the Treasury.

    Both The Treasury and the ONS however use different methods to collate those figures, which complicates matters further and both have since revised those figures to complicate matters even further. Brexit reached their conclusion in good faith, based on initial Treasury and ONS figures.

    Both sides however are being pedantic and squabbling over those figures and squabbling over methodology, but to suggest Brexit are lying out their teeth is blatant Remain propaganda and is just simply not true. Outside the EU we could in fact pay 350 million into the NHS.

    Hope that clears the matter up.

    :bye:

    #994900

    which was removed from the net figure of 8.5 billion and the picture changes drastically.

    This should read “which was removed, but then added back from…”

    My apologies.

    :bye:

    #994907

    Now pensions are gonna suffer, what next we’ll all have a leg drop off and become blind in one eye, the world will spin the other way, i wish both sides would fuck off with the negativity

    #994957

    SHAR, I was hoping that you’d gone, er thought you’d gone. You had pwomised you were going.

    Were you taught your arithmetic by cosy aka Karl???

    More importantly, are you teachng arithmetic to kids today, because if so no wonder that Brits can’t do the basic jobs. One solution to the immigration crisis could be to stop teaching math and get someone in who knows what they be doing.

    Read the initial post again, squire! If you don’t understand it, then end your job as cosy’s teaching assistant asap.

    #994961

    Now pensions are gonna suffer, what next we’ll all have a leg drop off and become blind in one eye, the world will spin the other way, i wish both sides would fuck off with the negativity

    Now pensions are gonna suffer, what next we’ll all have a leg drop off and become blind in one eye, the world will spin the other way, i wish both sides would fuck off with the negativity

    Pete,

    Cameron is desperate. If he loses this referendum, I can’t see how he’s going to survive, and his name may go down in history books as a PM who combines the silliness to have a referendum on a complicated trading market with the ability to lose and push the UK into problems which may, may be catastrophic.

    If you read what he says, he’s right, though. If the economy is smaller, then the pot of money to pay basic services is also going to be smaller, and he won’t be able to guarantee the ‘triple’ lock which maintains the standard of living for pensioners, or the NHS etc.

    So , most importantly – is he right on that happening?

    Simple answwer is yes but only if the UK is left in a desolate situation of isolation, paying high tariffs to the Single Market and open to dumping from every other country with a problem.

    And he’s right if the EU breaks up – a definite possibility if the UK leaves – and if that happens, God help everybody everywhere.

    So – I look to the Brexiteers for what they propose as the new trading arrangements. Someone counted 23 proposals for an alternative – some of them fantasy. Which one are they putting forward??

    Answers, please. It’s easy peasy to be negative, as you say, but they should be putting forward a realistic alternative and answering questions about that alternative sensibly. This is too serious for the politicking that you’ve noticed.

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