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    I don’t know if any of you saw this one on the news.

    Peter Messen was not a child; he was 28 years old he should have never been cycling on the pavement in the first place.

    His victim was Gary Green who was just packing up this car, in this drive, for a family holiday.

    We have all moan about people cycling on the pavements for years, we do have laws to prevent this, but there never enforced.

    If you drove on the pavement with a car and killing someone you would be looking at a harsh sentence, but not if you use cycle and your a bit thick.

    It seems that if you have “behavioural and medical problems” you can get away with murder.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/7098383.stm

    #293257

    Cas

    @dead_on_arrvial wrote:

    I don’t know if any of you saw this one on the news.

    Peter Messen was not a child; he was 28 years old he should have never been cycling on the pavement in the first place.

    His victim was Gary Green who was just packing up this car, in this drive, for a family holiday.

    We have all moan about people cycling on the pavements for years, we do have laws to prevent this, but there never enforced.

    If you drove on the pavement with a car and killing someone you would be looking at a harsh sentence, but not if you use cycle and your a bit thick.

    It seems that if you have “behavioural and medical problems” you can get away with murder.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cornwall/7098383.stm


    For once DOA,,,,I couldnt agree with you more.

    I dunno how to do the link but Mail on Sunday for 6th January this year, you will see the story about my mum, who was mown down, not by a cycle, but by a mobility scooter, which was also going far too fast on the pavement. The police didn’t want to know and did very little even after the article in the mail. Sadly she died in May, having never recovered from her injuries,,,,,,its manslaughter at best, but still they don’t want to know.

    I was actually told by one officer over the phone,,,,,,well she was 94 Carol and it was an accident, I think you should get over it :twisted: :twisted: Personally, I hope that officer goes straight to hell :twisted:

    #293258

    the police officer is right
    things happen , i’m sure the scooter driver is hardly laughing
    would it make you feel better if he or she was imprisoned
    i doubt it was a deliberate act
    move on and remember the good times stop being a victim

    #293259

    I really dont know why anyone is moaning about this, all you have is a pedestrian who was expecting everyone but himself to take responsibility for his own safety and a cyclist who wasnt driving responsibly as tho they are some priviledged class that everyone ELSE should watch out for

    Cyclists dont have to pass any tests, they dont have to have their vehicles checked, they dont have to have insurance and they dont have anything to identify their vehicles if they cause or are involved in an accident so really theyre nothing more than pedestrians with wheels as are rollerskaters, babies in pushchairs, kids on skateboards and people in cripple carriages so the footpath IS the place for both them and their cycle lanes as far as I’m concerned

    #293260

    i agree uber. although i must say the poor elderly lady is a point against. i reckon if you dont pay tax and insurance it shouldnt be on the queens highway. whatever vehiclle it is.

    #293261

    Cas

    Uber,,,,,,,,the pavement isn’t the place for ‘adult’ cyclists. Iv’e no problem with children cycling on the pavement, it’s far safer for them, but adults are not, and should not, be allowed to ride them on either the pavement or pedestrian walkways, they really are old enough to know better.

    Another pet hate of mine is when they cycle, on the pavement, to the pelican crossing, press the button for the lights to change and then cycle across!!! It’s ignorance on a huge scale. :twisted:

    #293262

    @cas wrote:

    Uber,,,,,,,,the pavement isn’t the place for ‘adult’ cyclists. Iv’e no problem with children cycling on the pavement, it’s far safer for them, but adults are not, and should not, be allowed to ride them on either the pavement or pedestrian walkways, they really are old enough to know better.

    Another pet hate of mine is when they cycle, on the pavement, to the pelican crossing, press the button for the lights to change and then cycle across!!! It’s ignorance on a huge scale. :twisted:

    I totally disagree

    Adult cyclists are on the whole far more likely to manoevre safely around pedestrians than kids anyway for one. Infact with current levels of child behaviour and their near untouchable status in the eyes of the law kids are actually far more likely to hit people just for the heck of it

    Also, the moement cyclists start paying road tax, buying insurance and having to pass a test then, and only then SHOULD they belong on the road

    As for being “on the path”, they wouldnt be, their cycle paths would be, so if they stay in them and you stay on your pedestrian part of the path whats yer problem?

    #293263

    Cas

    @ubermik wrote:

    @cas wrote:

    Uber,,,,,,,,the pavement isn’t the place for ‘adult’ cyclists. Iv’e no problem with children cycling on the pavement, it’s far safer for them, but adults are not, and should not, be allowed to ride them on either the pavement or pedestrian walkways, they really are old enough to know better.

    Another pet hate of mine is when they cycle, on the pavement, to the pelican crossing, press the button for the lights to change and then cycle across!!! It’s ignorance on a huge scale. :twisted:

    I totally disagree

    Adult cyclists are on the whole far more likely to manoevre safely around pedestrians than kids anyway for one. Infact with current levels of child behaviour and their near untouchable status in the eyes of the law kids are actually far more likely to hit people just for the heck of it

    Also, the moement cyclists start paying road tax, buying insurance and having to pass a test then, and only then SHOULD they belong on the road

    As for being “on the path”, they wouldnt be, their cycle paths would be, so if they stay in them and you stay on your pedestrian part of the path whats yer problem?

    I wouldn’t have a problem if they were in and STAYED IN!! their cycle paths. As for them being far more likely to ”manoevre safely around pedestrians”,,,,,iv’e yet to see it.

    I wouldn’t have had a problem on Tuesday either, had the ‘cyclist’ who almost landed in the buggy containing my freinds little girl apologised,,,,,,he merely gave me a mouthful of abuse like it was my fault for being in his bloody way in the first place!

    #293264

    @cas wrote:

    @ubermik wrote:

    @cas wrote:

    Uber,,,,,,,,the pavement isn’t the place for ‘adult’ cyclists. Iv’e no problem with children cycling on the pavement, it’s far safer for them, but adults are not, and should not, be allowed to ride them on either the pavement or pedestrian walkways, they really are old enough to know better.

    Another pet hate of mine is when they cycle, on the pavement, to the pelican crossing, press the button for the lights to change and then cycle across!!! It’s ignorance on a huge scale. :twisted:

    I totally disagree

    Adult cyclists are on the whole far more likely to manoevre safely around pedestrians than kids anyway for one. Infact with current levels of child behaviour and their near untouchable status in the eyes of the law kids are actually far more likely to hit people just for the heck of it

    Also, the moement cyclists start paying road tax, buying insurance and having to pass a test then, and only then SHOULD they belong on the road

    As for being “on the path”, they wouldnt be, their cycle paths would be, so if they stay in them and you stay on your pedestrian part of the path whats yer problem?

    I wouldn’t have a problem if they were in and STAYED IN!! their cycle paths. As for them being far more likely to ”manoevre safely around pedestrians”,,,,,iv’e yet to see it.

    I wouldn’t have had a problem on Tuesday either, had the ‘cyclist’ who almost landed in the buggy containing my freinds little girl apologised,,,,,,he merely gave me a mouthful of abuse like it was my fault for being in his bloody way in the first place!

    Well if you didnt see him coming maybe it was your fault, or 50% of it at least, after all cyclists are hardly invisible nor tiny, and the more speed something has the harder minute adjustents to direction become

    So for the same reason I wouldnt walk infront of a container lorry and just “expect” them to swerve around me perhaps its time pedestrians also stopped walking around as tho theyre in some hallucinagenic daydream and started to pay attention to their surroundings too for a change

    #293265

    Cas

    @ubermik wrote:

    @cas wrote:

    @ubermik wrote:

    @cas wrote:

    Uber,,,,,,,,the pavement isn’t the place for ‘adult’ cyclists. Iv’e no problem with children cycling on the pavement, it’s far safer for them, but adults are not, and should not, be allowed to ride them on either the pavement or pedestrian walkways, they really are old enough to know better.

    Another pet hate of mine is when they cycle, on the pavement, to the pelican crossing, press the button for the lights to change and then cycle across!!! It’s ignorance on a huge scale. :twisted:

    I totally disagree

    Adult cyclists are on the whole far more likely to manoevre safely around pedestrians than kids anyway for one. Infact with current levels of child behaviour and their near untouchable status in the eyes of the law kids are actually far more likely to hit people just for the heck of it

    Also, the moement cyclists start paying road tax, buying insurance and having to pass a test then, and only then SHOULD they belong on the road

    As for being “on the path”, they wouldnt be, their cycle paths would be, so if they stay in them and you stay on your pedestrian part of the path whats yer problem?

    I wouldn’t have a problem if they were in and STAYED IN!! their cycle paths. As for them being far more likely to ”manoevre safely around pedestrians”,,,,,iv’e yet to see it.

    I wouldn’t have had a problem on Tuesday either, had the ‘cyclist’ who almost landed in the buggy containing my freinds little girl apologised,,,,,,he merely gave me a mouthful of abuse like it was my fault for being in his bloody way in the first place!

    Well if you didnt see him coming maybe it was your fault, or 50% of it at least, after all cyclists are hardly invisible nor tiny, and the more speed something has the harder minute adjustents to direction become

    So for the same reason I wouldnt walk infront of a container lorry and just “expect” them to swerve around me perhaps its time pedestrians also stopped walking around as tho theyre in some hallucinagenic daydream and started to pay attention to their surroundings too for a change

    By the same token,,,,,,,i was in the shopping PEDESTRIAN precinct,,,,,so I really shouldn’t have been having to look out for rogue cyclists, because they shouldn’t be riding their cycles through pedestrian precincts in the first place,,,,,,, :twisted:

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