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A large part of the reason we have so many divorces is because its a lot easier to do nowadays, but also (methinks) more so because getting married is so easy to do and such a meaningless thing
So perhaps a good solution would be to add a two year waiting period to marriage, so you have to register the intent to marry and apply to be able to, but then you have to wait for two years before being able to
Many of the divorces we see dont last two years OF marriage, so chances are they wouldnt last the two year waiting period either and with some luck many of the other severely flawed legal couplings wouldnt happen either if people had that period of time to think about it and couldnt do it in haste
Thoughts?
isnt it amazing that if you adopt a dog the rspca will visit you and check on the welfare of the dog, but if you have a child youre left to get on with it regardless, getting married should only be allowed after the intended couple do a sort of living degree to assess how well they are matched, do they realy know what marriage means etc. and more importanyly can they take the pressures of marriage nowadays, for too many people its an excuse for a party and not about life partnership. some women put more importance on their bloody wedding dress than they do the husbands ability to earn the cash to pay for it.ffs weve got a generation of barbies and wags.and their fekless mothers are to blame for spoiling them and telling them that they can have everything they want just get it on credit. end game thousands in debt two kids later they all fall down.mariage is an institution and if you dont want to be in an institution dont get married simple as.
@waspish wrote:
isnt it amazing that if you adopt a dog the rspca will visit you and check on the welfare of the dog, but if you have a child youre left to get on with it regardless.
Well, you can actually have kids without being married, infact many women manage to do so without even having a partner and people also get married but dont have kids, so thats not really anything to do with marriage and would be more relevant re a discussion about whether all women should be steralised and have to take courses, prove they can afford to raise a child and pass exams before being unsteralised in order to breed
@waspish wrote:
getting married should only be allowed after the intended couple do a sort of living degree to assess how well they are matched, do they realy know what marriage means etc. and more importanyly can they take the pressures of marriage nowadays .
Thats kind of the point of the thread, although even without any tuition on the realities of a relationship and learning what the word “commitment” means wouldnt even be needed for the marriages that only last a year or two anyway, as chances are they just wouldnt even happen to begin with if they had a couple of years to think about the decision made during copulation or inebriation in a bit more depth
@waspish wrote:
for too many people its an excuse for a party and not about life partnership. some women put more importance on their bloody wedding dress than they do the husbands ability to earn the cash to pay for it .
Shock horror, but nowadays women are actually capable and allowed to get of their macdonalds enhanced bottoms, give daytime TV a rest and earn that money themselves you know lol :lol:
@waspish wrote:
ffs weve got a generation of barbies and wags.and their fekless mothers are to blame for spoiling them and telling them that they can have everything they want just get it on credit. end game thousands in debt two kids later they all fall down.mariage is an institution and if you dont want to be in an institution dont get married simple as.
Credit is more of a social plague and the parents are to blame totally for that particular issue as they are the ones tasked with teaching their kids the value and management of money, restraint, importance and where real value rather than “mc-value” lies in things
As for having it all, thats more to do with feminism being missunderstood or perverted as its portrayed as being possible for women to be an excellent mother, have an excellent career and have an excellent family life (relationships rarely get a mention in the feminist model), all of which take most of every day, so until we have 48 hours in a day and 10 days in a week its an unrealistic thing to tell people is the MINIMUM they should aim for
The original message of feminism was for women to have the CHOICE of which they wanted and in what mix, not the innacurate claim that they not only could, but SHOULD have all three to excess as thats just not possible for all but a very fortunate wealthy few and therefore leaves the majority chasing an ideal they cant attain and feeling inadequate as a result
good points uber indeed. i think the feminist argument went out of the window years ago mate, its all about bringing your little chav barbie up to marry the highest earning chav she can get her grubby plastic nails into. most women my age have earned their own money and have a happy medium of equality with our partners and friends but the generation coming up now can hardly read and write, let alone understand responsibility and commitment. as for having children without being married. i dont have a problem with that, im a bastard and dont care who knows. but the problem is half the women giving birth this year are not allowed to but cigarettes and beer ????? what happened to teaching our children self respect an morals ??? im no perfect mother by a long way,but both my offsprig work full time and have homes of their own. youngest granted is only 18 but she shares with two friends and is doing well in her career. its sureley not too hard to teach kids basic life skills.or is it because i live in a little village and were away from the sprawling estates that seem to breed these fekless people. if they cant or wont work they should b forced to have educational training and structured goals to reach, ie have a bath daily, wash your clothes etc etc instead of being allowed to wallow on their fat arses watching tricia and co all day long smoking dope.and then we wonder why communities have died a death.
The stats reveal that 2 year separation by consent is the most common reason for divorce. This is very misleading as the parties may have been married for years, but would have to prove to the court that they have lived separate lives for two years preceding issuing the divorce. So the public misunderstand this to mean they have only been married two years when that is not the case atall.
It is one of the most common grounds as the majority blatently lie and as its by consent there is no reason to question it. Mutually between couples who agree they can no longer live together chose this ground as its the simplist. And better than airing their dirty linen for the likes of me an my collegues to have a good old laugh about!
The unreasonable behaviour and adultery cases are equally as common in my opinion and certainly brighten up my day :)
I thought long and hard about getting married and working in my environment has certainly opened my eyes. Luckily we are happily married and I hope that continues.
The worse cases we see at the moment are children act cases between unmarried parents…. some of them are the pits, and you just dont wanna read them.
@waspish wrote:
isnt it amazing that if you adopt a dog the rspca will visit you and check on the welfare of the dog, but if you have a child youre left to get on with it regardless, getting married should only be allowed after the intended couple do a sort of living degree to assess how well they are matched, do they realy know what marriage means etc. and more importanyly can they take the pressures of marriage nowadays, for too many people its an excuse for a party and not about life partnership. some women put more importance on their bloody wedding dress than they do the husbands ability to earn the cash to pay for it.ffs weve got a generation of barbies and wags.and their fekless mothers are to blame for spoiling them and telling them that they can have everything they want just get it on credit. end game thousands in debt two kids later they all fall down.mariage is an institution and if you dont want to be in an institution dont get married simple as.
What amazes me is people who begrudge an animal finding a decent home. After what theyve been through to be in the care of the RSPCA in the first place, they deserve it.
You want people to attain a “living degree”?! who said romance was dead eh? :roll: I agree with Uber, if a couple are serious about getting married, they wont mind waiting, those that arent serious wont last the time it takes to get to the top of the waiting list.
So what… manogamy is a wood, aint it? :roll:
@sharongooner wrote:
The stats reveal that 2 year separation by consent is the most common reason for divorce. This is very misleading as the parties may have been married for years, but would have to prove to the court that they have lived separate lives for two years preceding issuing the divorce. So the public misunderstand this to mean they have only been married two years when that is not the case atall.
It is one of the most common grounds as the majority blatently lie and as its by consent there is no reason to question it. Mutually between couples who agree they can no longer live together chose this ground as its the simplist. And better than airing their dirty linen for the likes of me an my collegues to have a good old laugh about!
The unreasonable behaviour and adultery cases are equally as common in my opinion and certainly brighten up my day :)
I thought long and hard about getting married and working in my environment has certainly opened my eyes. Luckily we are happily married and I hope that continues.
The worse cases we see at the moment are children act cases between unmarried parents…. some of them are the pits, and you just dont wanna read them.
Actually nope, you are quite honestly the first person I have ever met or spoken too who even thinks anyone MIGHT not be able to know the difference between a two year separation and a marriage that lasts less than two years
The giveaway sign is the marriage that lasts less than two years ends within two years of starting for a start, its a bit of a giveaway really, so there wasnt any confusion here and lordy knows what kind of people you associate with if you DO think thats a common misconception :|
@ubermik wrote:
@sharongooner wrote:
The stats reveal that 2 year separation by consent is the most common reason for divorce. This is very misleading as the parties may have been married for years, but would have to prove to the court that they have lived separate lives for two years preceding issuing the divorce. So the public misunderstand this to mean they have only been married two years when that is not the case atall.
It is one of the most common grounds as the majority blatently lie and as its by consent there is no reason to question it. Mutually between couples who agree they can no longer live together chose this ground as its the simplist. And better than airing their dirty linen for the likes of me an my collegues to have a good old laugh about!
The unreasonable behaviour and adultery cases are equally as common in my opinion and certainly brighten up my day :)
I thought long and hard about getting married and working in my environment has certainly opened my eyes. Luckily we are happily married and I hope that continues.
The worse cases we see at the moment are children act cases between unmarried parents…. some of them are the pits, and you just dont wanna read them.
Actually nope, you are quite honestly the first person I have ever met or spoken too who even thinks anyone MIGHT not be able to know the difference between a two year separation and a marriage that lasts less than two years
The giveaway sign is the marriage that lasts less than two years ends within two years of starting for a start, its a bit of a giveaway really, so there wasnt any confusion here and lordy knows what kind of people you associate with if you DO think thats a common misconception :|
You made the comment that most marriages do not last two years ….. the figure is wrong!
Go figure….. :wink:
The most common GROUND for divorce is two year sep.
Not the most common reason for divorce or length of marriage. Which is 7 to 9 years.
And whilst on the subject the actual divorce rates have steadily fallen over the last 9 years to.
@sharongooner wrote:
@ubermik wrote:
@sharongooner wrote:
The stats reveal that 2 year separation by consent is the most common reason for divorce. This is very misleading as the parties may have been married for years, but would have to prove to the court that they have lived separate lives for two years preceding issuing the divorce. So the public misunderstand this to mean they have only been married two years when that is not the case atall.
It is one of the most common grounds as the majority blatently lie and as its by consent there is no reason to question it. Mutually between couples who agree they can no longer live together chose this ground as its the simplist. And better than airing their dirty linen for the likes of me an my collegues to have a good old laugh about!
The unreasonable behaviour and adultery cases are equally as common in my opinion and certainly brighten up my day :)
I thought long and hard about getting married and working in my environment has certainly opened my eyes. Luckily we are happily married and I hope that continues.
The worse cases we see at the moment are children act cases between unmarried parents…. some of them are the pits, and you just dont wanna read them.
Actually nope, you are quite honestly the first person I have ever met or spoken too who even thinks anyone MIGHT not be able to know the difference between a two year separation and a marriage that lasts less than two years
The giveaway sign is the marriage that lasts less than two years ends within two years of starting for a start, its a bit of a giveaway really, so there wasnt any confusion here and lordy knows what kind of people you associate with if you DO think thats a common misconception :|
You made the comment that most marriages do not last two years ….. the figure is wrong!
Go figure….. :wink:
The most common GROUND for divorce is two year sep.
Not the most common reason for divorce or length of marriage. Which is 7 to 9 years.
And whilst on the subject the actual divorce rates have steadily fallen over the last 9 years to.
@ubermik wrote:
Many of the divorces we see dont last two years OF marriage
Although the words “many” and “most” both begin with M and are fairly close to each other in the dictionary that DOESNT imply they mean the same thing goony
And the phrase “two years OF marriage” was, I think, specific enough for it to be quite clear exactly what I was referring to
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