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Has we have all been saying in south east of Britain for the last 2 year, the Polish immigration figure of 15,000 for the first 2 years was wrong.
Today the finally admitted that the true number was more that 450,000 for the last two year and more on the way.
If you add the rest of the immigration groups such has asylum seekers and other E.C member states, the number could be has high has 1 million per year.
And how are we to prove health care and housing for all these new people?
After the Government change the rules for “bed sits “ and other low cost housing, and the property boom, more and more low cost housing is being converted into flats.
In the past when I saw homeless people on the streets of Brighton, they were just drunks and drug addicts, now there young people who can’t understand English.
Before anymore new country enter the E.C and we sort out the ones we have now first?
I don’t have a problem with Polish workers coming to live / work over here – we have a lot in our town. Like us, Poles are EU citizens and so have the right to travel / work / live anywhere in the EU.
However the numbers do seem alarming – 450,000 is not far short of 1% of the total population of England (just over 50 million) or indeed that of the UK (60 million).
There is a reverse situation where Brits have been buying up cheap properties in eastern Europe as investmensts or cheap second homes.
When Romania and Bulgaria join the EU their citizens should have full EU rights and so I think the way to tackle the demographics is to postpone their entry until any resulting migrations can be absorbed.
Also, from the Homesearch website:
“Around 700,000 Britons now own homes in Spain and one in eight British over-55s are expected to be living abroad by 2010. It is estimated that one in four properties on the Costa del Sol are now owned by Brits.”
It’s a 2 way thing!
I heard yesterday that one million brits live in spain, but thats just a verbal tactic to stop the English arguing the point against mass immigration.
National statistics – Out Migration UK 2004
“Out-migration increased more quickly than inflows but to a lesser extent, from 238,000 in 1994 to 360,000 in 2004.”“In 2003, around two fifths of British citizens out-migrating were moving to other countries in the EU and over one quarter to Australia or New Zealand”
In the area where i live, the visual and sound of the place has changed quite dramatically. Just tonight, i was standing in a take-away, and heard two men talking behind me. At first i thought they sounded like to non whites from pagan knows where, i was surprised when i turned round to see it was 2 polish guys.
Also, you see polish people (student looking types/skinheads/girls trying to attract someone) standing around watching the world go by, usually on the busiest street. They dont all work.
They live in and amognst the native indians. I cant see it lasting, and next year, the bulgarians and romanians will be on the way, yes :(
The figures show those 427,000 migrant workers who successfully registered to work brought with them 36,000 dependents – spouses and children. Some 27,000 child benefit applications were approved.
As well as those claiming child benefit, 680 people were told they could get income-related benefits.Clearly they are coming here to work. What puzzles me is the long term unemployed who seem unable to find work. :-s
we saw today a group of guys laying on a street corner looking very un-english (get yer dictionary out em lol!) and hubby said “look at that group of polish workers”, i said how do you know (even though i thought they did look very out of place at the end of a street and laying down and not a beer in sight) and he said “cos thats what they do. i see it every day where i work. they are waiting for the works van to pick them up to take them to work.
WE employ them.
@sharongooner wrote:
we saw today a group of guys laying on a street corner looking very un-english (get yer dictionary out em lol!) and hubby said “look at that group of polish workers”, i said how do you know (even though i thought they did look very out of place at the end of a street and laying down and not a beer in sight) and he said “cos thats what they do. i see it every day where i work. they are waiting for the works van to pick them up to take them to work.
WE employ them.
Thats easy, there were foreigners :wink:
They work for less than minimum wage mostly. Some as low as £3ph. Some work in Lincolnshire picking, £12 for a ten hour shift (C4 documentary). Its incredible.
Wont be long before they prefer benefit, hosted by new labour to get there vote…
@emmalush wrote:
They work for less than minimum wage mostly. Some as low as £3ph. Some work in Lincolnshire picking, £12 for a ten hour shift (C4 documentary). Its incredible.
The minority who are working for less than the minimum wage are illegal immigrants.
@emmalush wrote:Wont be long before they prefer benefit, hosted by new labour to get there vote…
They’re not entitled to vote here.
From a feature Radio 4, I gather that a lot of these Poles intend returning to their home country when its economy improves.
Also on Radio 4 I heard that the Republic of Ireland has a similar situation with migrant workers, but from Lithuania and Latvia.
Ow£n Ka$h wrote:They’re not entitled to vote here.Wont they ever be able to vote?
B55, when will Poland’s economy improve, 2067?
What about all those Eastern European immigrants who came and then left? Not all the Polish immigrants stayed, some decided to return home.
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