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    I remember hearing in the news recently about an Iraqi woman who was raped, murdered along with the rest of her family and then had her home set on fire. This was all done by US servicemen. The US military and the FBI investigated and the soldiers will be prosecuted. What makes this case even more shocking is that the US military and the FBI both said that this had happened to a woman in her 20s. However, despite their investigations, it turns out that the “woman” raped was actually 14 years of age!

    The Iraqi public isn’t up in arms about it because they claim that Iraqi women get raped by coalition troops all the time. Initially, when you hear these claims of abuse you take them with a pinch of salt, but there is a definite pattern of behaviour developing which leads me to believe the Iraqis are probably telling the truth when they accuse coalition forces of misconduct.

    All this further undermines the claim by Bush and Blair that the invasion of Iraq was to end human rights abuses there. Seems like the coalition is just carrying on where Saddam left off.

    #230083

    :-s Saddam prosecuted his security forces if they got out of hand?

    #230084

    There was that little incident where Saddams’ security forces shelled the Kurds with Chanel Number 5 when it was meant to be nerve gas. :roll:

    #230085

    Aren’t you confusing this incident with one where a group of Iraqi Sunni Moslems stopped a bus and coldly murdered all the Iraqi Shia Moslems on it? They killed around 30 didn’t they?

    #230086

    It’s those nasty bloody Americans again !!!!

    The sooner China wipes them off the map – the safer the world will be !!!!!!!!!!!!

    #230087

    You know there is so much bad happening in this world it will never stop, British hostages being beheaded, iraqis raped, shot etc need i go on. It will always happen but i just hate hearing about it and knowing it happens. World peace would be ace but will never happen but live in hope wont hurt x

    #230088

    The point is that these things shouldn’t be happening. A 14 year old girl raped and murdered by the “liberators” of Iraq. I don’t support the death penalty but the accused soldiers could be put to death and they would deserve it. In all probability, they will probably get off with a light sentence. Now you know why the USA didn’t want to sign up to the international criminal court. It doesn’t want its own soldiers to face real justice. How many senior military people went to prison over abu ghraib? None.

    As for the gassing of the Kurds, Saddam couldn’t have gassed anybody if the West hadn’t provided him with chemical weapons.

    #230089

    I agree. This is terrible. America and Britain are over there for the good of the country, apparently.
    Why do the American troops constantly bring bad press here, saying they have done this that and the other. Its disgusting they are no better than the enermy.

    #230090

    It occurs to me that there hasn’t been an occupying army of any size in the history of the world that we could point to as flawless in its conduct. The difference lies in whether evil behaviour like this is sanctioned or investigated and prosecuted. We’ve already seen British soldiers facing courts martial for their behaviour as well as Americans. This indicates that the coalition forces belong to the latter camp.

    As for the relative low rank of those prosecuted so far, including those taken to account over Abu Ghraib, well, it’s a well known law of anthropology that shit rolls down hill. In a liberal democracy like the United States or the United Kingdom, it is impossible to prosecute those to which no said faecal matter has attached itself. Perhaps it is an argument in favour of us adopting the kind of vicious, summary justice that is so prevalent across the Muslim world. But I don’t think so. I’m one of those old fashioned softy liberals who would rather guilty men go free than risk innocent men being punished unfairly.

    The point, I think, is that this incident, however revolting and wicked, has nothing to do with the rights and wrongs of the occupation itself. If we were to follow that logic, we might easily point to the (equally revolting and, some might say, much worse) atrocities perpetuated by the insurgents as a justification for the whole enterprise.

    #230091

    @Mr Bigstuff wrote:

    ….As for the gassing of the Kurds, Saddam couldn’t have gassed anybody if the West hadn’t provided him with chemical weapons.

    Ah yes – of course. Dear old misunderstood Saddam simply couldn’t help it could he? It was just an innocent mistake on his part and the REAL cuplrits are those vicious colonialist Americans who sold him the said gas in the first place. (Even if they didn’t actually sell it to him, it’s their fault anyway).

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