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    Quotes from UKIP’s MEPs or senior party members from this document:

    http://www.richardcorbett.org.uk/assets/docs/briefing/theres-something-about-ukip.pdf

    They are openly racist – page 4:

    “Nigel Farage (UKIP MEP since 1999, leader of the UKIP group of MEPs in the
    European Parliament since 2004; former UKIP Chairman, 1998-2000 and cofounder,
    UKIP) told former UKIP leader Dr Alan Sked “We will never win the
    nigger vote. The nig-nogs will never vote for us.”

    They don’t believe in women’s rights – page 7:

    “Godfrey Bloom (UKIP MEP since 2004) has notoriously declared: “No selfrespecting
    small businessman with a brain in the right place would ever employ a
    lady of child-bearing age”. He applied for a place on the Women’s Rights
    Committee of the European Parliament, saying “I am here to represent Yorkshire
    women who always have dinner on the table when you get home. I am going to
    promote men’s rights”. He wanted to deal with women’s issues because “I just
    don’t think they clean behind the fridge enough”.
    Mr Bloom later said that employers should not “waste” money training pregnant
    staff, and added “Women don’t need protection nowadays – they’re the ones ruling
    the roost.”

    Putting the icing on the cake, he protested: “Everyone thinks I’m anti-women.
    Where did they get that idea from?”. Former Conservative leader William Hague
    wrote “If he comes near my Yorkshire home and my wife, he’s gonna find his very
    thick head comes into contact with her heavy briefcase”.

    And, of course, all but one UKIPs 12 MEPs are white, middle-aged, middle-class
    men.

    They are openly homophobic:

    “Frank Maloney (UKIP candidate in the 2004 London mayoral election) commented
    that he would not be campaigning in Camden because there are “too many gays”.
    He said “I don’t want to campaign around gays… I don’t think they do a lot for
    society”. Protesting that he was not homophobic, Maloney then added “In public
    let’s live a proper moral life – I think that’s important”.

    In the European Parliament, UKIP has allied itself with the League of Polish
    Families (LPR), an extreme nationalist party that describes homosexuality as “a
    condition which is unacceptable from the moral point of view.”

    They think fossil fuels are renewable – page 7:

    “Steve Reed (Chairman, UKIP Wells and Weston-super-Mare branch) has written:
    “Brussels requires us (Directive 2001/77/EC) to generate 12 per cent of all our
    energy and 22.1 per cent of our electricity from ‘renewable resources’ by 2010. I
    place ‘renewable resources’ in parenthesis [sic], because the resources meant are not
    renewable, whereas fossil-fuels are. … Fossil-fuels are constantly being produced
    on the tectonic conveyor-belt. This is not just academic nit-picking: these processes
    are generally very slow, but oil-wells do refill”.

    They think Wind Turbines upset the Earth’s rotation: – on page 8:

    “Steve Reed has also stated: “[‘Renewable resources’] are not renewable… Taking
    energy from winds and tides irreversibly enervates the weather system and slows
    the rotation of the Earth”

    IMHO, how anyone with an ounce of intelligence would want to vote for them, I don’t know!

    #513153

    a number of BNP people joined UKIP because it didn’t have the Nazi taint attached to it. It’s a more respectable version of BNP.

    In terms of Europe, which is becoming one of the big issues, it’s indistinguishable from the Tory Right. I constantly ask Terry, our UKIP rep here, why he didn’t join teh Tory Right, where he could make a real difference, and he constantly evades.

    #513154

    Well the one good thing about UKIP is, they won’t fool many people.

    They have no realistic chance of ever forming a government. Those intending to vote for them are best off devoting the energy to doing something more worthwhile.

    #513155

    I know a lot of Yorkshire farmers favoured UKIP last time around… something to do with the Common Agricultural Policy and the fact that Stuart Agnew the MEP representative is also a farmer and understands the issues from his own experience…. have to say he is persuasive…

    I think all MPs should have life experience before entering politics… it gives them more credibility…. and how can they actually know what the issues are if they haven’t lived and worked in the “real” world

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGPYfvifOsg
    #513156

    I think the quotes that panda posted are grim………..really grim………like I have said before on another f3 thread……’if i spoke like that i would be sacked on the spot’

    I wont get involved with that kind thing

    #513157

    @tinks wrote:

    I think the quotes that panda posted are grim………..really grim………like I have said before on another f3 thread……’if i spoke like that i would be sacked on the spot’

    I wont get involved with that kind thing

    UKIP are scary, very scary. They wear suits though instead of dressing like the racist, homophobic sexist, thugs they are.

    Unfortunately, this air of “respectability” fools some ppl.

    * shudders :roll:

    #513158

    @mrs_teapot wrote:

    I know a lot of Yorkshire farmers favoured UKIP last time around… something to do with the Common Agricultural Policy and the fact that Stuart Agnew the MEP representative is also a farmer and understands the issues from his own experience…. have to say he is persuasive…

    I think all MPs should have life experience before entering politics… it gives them more credibility…. and how can they actually know what the issues are if they haven’t lived and worked in the “real” world

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGPYfvifOsg

    UKIP, whether their representatives live in the “real world” or not are the BNP in suits.

    #513159

    @panda12 wrote:

    @tinks wrote:

    I think the quotes that panda posted are grim………..really grim………like I have said before on another f3 thread……’if i spoke like that i would be sacked on the spot’

    I wont get involved with that kind thing

    UKIP are scary, very scary. They wear suits though instead of dressing like the racist, homophobic sexist, thugs they are.

    Unfortunately, this air of “respectability” fools some ppl.

    * shudders :roll:

    have to say though……..there will always be people that think the way they do, who voice their opinions out loud and so will attract like minded people to join their ‘party’

    #513160

    @mrs_teapot wrote:

    I know a lot of Yorkshire farmers favoured UKIP last time around… something to do with the Common Agricultural Policy and the fact that Stuart Agnew the MEP representative is also a farmer and understands the issues from his own experience…. have to say he is persuasive…

    I think all MPs should have life experience before entering politics… it gives them more credibility…. and how can they actually know what the issues are if they haven’t lived and worked in the “real” world

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGPYfvifOsg

    Mrds T puts her finger on why UKIP is a different kettle of fish from the BNP.

    They’ve cottoned on to a big issue, maybe the big issue of the next few years – they demand we leave the EU.

    This gives their politics a chauvinist tinge which attracts BNP types (like Terry???), and they have emerged with some popularity in traditonal Tory areas like North Yorks (the BNP was always a working-class affair).

    It also gives the Tory Right the impetus to put the fire under Cameron’s feet, as they point to the UKIP threat as a reason for Tories to keep their traditonal heartlands. The Tory Right is indistinguishable from UKIP on this.

    Take care you don’t get what you wish for. The UK outside the EU could become a pretty scary place – if successful, more like Hong Kong, if that’s what you want (forget the NHS, though teh attack on ‘dolers’ are preparing the way for that). If it fails, then Gawd help us!

    #513161

    UKIP are selling themselves as the more “respectable” NF…..I agree it is very scary indeed…but like Tinks says there will always be people with extreme views…although someone with those views will obviously think they aren’t extreme but genuine points of concern for the future of this country….
    However more and more people are having inter racial relationships/marriages…could be the children of grandchildren of some of these members…or siblings of some of the younger members……..what then? Do they disown them?
    The same goes for homosexuality

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