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19 February, 2012 at 9:05 pm #17296
I watched a film last night about the deportation of British children to Australia it was an eye opener Between 1947 and 1967 up to 10,000 British children were shipped to Australia by the British government… Parents weren’t told the truth. Their children lost their real identities and were told they were orphans going on holiday to a place where the sun always shines, it was cheaper to send the children to Australia than to care for them here…..some of those children suffered harsh treatment the ones who suffered the worst were the boys sent to Bindoon, an isolated institution north of Perth. The Catholic Christian Brothers ran it. Children built it. British children were forced to do hard labour until they were 16-years-old.The practice continued until 1967 when it was stopped. Not all the children deported to Australia after World War 2 suffered abuse.It was a Nottinghamshire Social Worker, Margaret Humphreys who uncovered the scandal of Britain’s child migration
SHAME ON THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT!!!
23 February, 2012 at 7:07 pm #489728Great Britain eh?
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24 February, 2012 at 8:58 am #489730well blossy as an “educated person” I’m sure u already know that our ancestors weren’t as fortunate as we are today in being “educated” I didn’t realise only uneducated people are bad parents?? Does this mean that a person with a degree in engineering would be a better parent than a person who has no GCSE’s ?…………..The mind boggles
24 February, 2012 at 9:27 am #489731@blossom‘ wrote:
Don’t want to seem fascist by stating what I’m about to state, but I sometimes think only the educated should have the right to have children, it would save on a lot of grief.
For one example both Maddie McCann’s parents were Doctors and never got a babysitter, massive oversight or bad parenting?
Ok they cant be bad parents as they are Doctors yeah Blossom’?
24 February, 2012 at 9:41 am #489732@irish_lucy wrote:
@blossom‘ wrote:
Don’t want to seem fascist by stating what I’m about to state, but I sometimes think only the educated should have the right to have children, it would save on a lot of grief.
For one example both Maddie McCann’s parents were Doctors and never got a babysitter, massive oversight or bad parenting?
Ok they cant be bad parents as they are Doctors yeah Blossom’?
My point exactly Lucy!!……….and Blossy I reallyyyyy can’t see how it is the parents fault that these kids were shipped out……even if parents were not responsible enough to care for their children then surely it was the responsibility of the British government to ensure those BRITISH children were given a stable upbringing as possible……..not to ship them out because it was simply cheaper to do so. In February 2010, then Prime Minister Gordon Brown apologised for the UK’s role in the scheme, I wouldn’t say this is blaming the “uneducated” parents I would say its the government admitting it made a terrible mistake.
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24 February, 2012 at 10:34 am #489734@blossom‘ wrote:
1) Only a minority seemed to have been orphans.
Most of the children seemed to have been placed in care homes (by their parents), by what I read.
2) Once left in such places, I guess their parents don’t have much authority over what could happen to their children I’m afraid….they gave them up, after all.
3) Perhaps if their parents were slightly more educated and weren’t (pardon the pun) f***ing like rabbits, they wouldn’t have ended up in such a place in the first place.Don’t want to seem fascist by stating what I’m about to state, but I sometimes think only the educated should have the right to have children, it would save on a lot of grief.
Disadvantaged doesn’t necessarily mean uneducated. What is more important in a child’s life, loving parents or educated parents?
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And YES, I did get the point to what you were stating Lucy (before you even go there), but nevertheless, I still think it’s their parents fault (by being irresponsible for having brought children into the world, and not being able to support them) if they ended up in such a place.
How were they irresponsible? They couldn’t go on the pill, it wasn’t invented. Infant mortality was so high for various reasons besides poverty that it was the norm to have several children knowing full well that they wouldn’t all survive. Oh hold on…yes, the mothers could have gone for back-street abortions and run the risk of dying and leaving their remaining children motherless.
It’s easy to judge parents of the past by today’s standards but think about what the world was like then. No pill, no abortion, limited birth control, the woman didn’t have the right to say no to her husband when he wanted sex, no social services as we would recognise them today, no benefit system, no employment protection, no minimum wage, no spare cash to save for a rainy day unless you were already rich and living off the backs of the lower classes …if you find yourself jobless and homeless, what do you do? Your choice is to go into the workhouse (when they were still in existence) or give your child to someone who can give them the care and nurturing that you can’t. Rock and a hard place anyone?
When the practice first started life was cheap, children weren’t even really considered people until reaching adulthood, they were only just above the family animals in the pecking order and on farms even that was debatable, and no doubt at the time it seemed like a good option all round, however the practice continued for far too long. For all we might grumble about the world today, we’ve come a long long way.
And Blossom, I really can’t decide whether you’re a troll, you like playing devil’s advocate or whether you have no empathy and no desire to understand anything beyond your own experience.
24 February, 2012 at 10:35 am #489735learn to mulitask as your not the only one here with a job.
And educated and ignorant people make mistakes and have unproteced sex which end up well im sure your already ahead of me now.
then again were condoms around in 1947 certintaly telly was not an option for many so why not have sex, it also keep ya warm.
Lucy is right you can’t compare todays living standards with years gone by.
“In February 2010, then Prime Minister Gordon Brown apologised for the UK’s role in the scheme, I wouldn’t say this is blaming the “uneducated” parents I would say its the government admitting it made a terrible mistake.”24 February, 2012 at 10:52 am #489736Disadvantaged doesn’t necessarily mean uneducated. What is more important in a child’s life, loving parents or educated parents?=D> =D> =D>
How were they irresponsible? They couldn’t go on the pill, it wasn’t invented. Infant mortality was so high for various reasons besides poverty that it was the norm to have several children knowing full well that they wouldn’t all survive. Oh hold on…yes, the mothers could have gone for back-street abortions and run the risk of dying and leaving their remaining children motherless.
It’s easy to judge parents of the past by today’s standards but think about what the world was like then. No pill, no abortion, limited birth control, the woman didn’t have the right to say no to her husband when he wanted sex, no social services as we would recognise them today, no benefit system, no employment protection, no minimum wage, no spare cash to save for a rainy day unless you were already rich and living off the backs of the lower classes …if you find yourself jobless and homeless, what do you do? Your choice is to go into the workhouse (when they were still in existence) or give your child to someone who can give them the care and nurturing that you can’t. you will probably never understand this blossy untill you are a parent yourself.
When the practice first started life was cheap, children weren’t even really considered people until reaching adulthood, they were only just above the family animals in the pecking order and on farms even that was debatable, and no doubt at the time it seemed like a good option all round, however the practice continued for far too long. For all we might grumble about the world today, we’ve come a long long way. well said jen jen!!!And Blossom, I really can’t decide whether you’re a troll, you like playing devil’s advocate or whether you have no empathy and no desire to understand anything beyond your own experience.[/quote] ……all I ever see is blossy trying to stir her large wooden spoon on threads on the boards…..maybe she/he wasn’t socially educated lol………just saying
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