in the scheme of things…….

cath it never fails too shock me there was one on the regional news yesterday as well were he had filmed the abuse on his mobile phone …i cry everytimes i read or hear this.

@rubyred wrote:

yeah I saw both the stories cath And Yvonne are speaking of.. in both cases the “boy” friend.. There is a new thing up here, it is being piloted here in Dundee for the Scottish..My daugter came home with all the leaflets they were automatically given if you child is at nursery..
basically…say hypothetically.. your daughter met a new Lad in life..well she an now check up and see if he has form for any kind of abuse. Ifs its the worried grandparent,, they canask for a check up, and while thy wont be told anything, it will at least be looked into. An no i am not being sexist, im sure the same applies to single parent young fathers.

I do not know how successful this has been so far.But there are to damm many cases of the so called ” stepfathers” doing this shyt..

We had a big case up here last year about a wee boy, brandon Muir who was slowly and sytematically killed by some junkie,, he did it with previous lasses and their babies.But Brandon was sngled out as he was a live wire,and they dont like THAT..kicked in the stomach till he was coughing up blood, then taken to a party and propped up against a toilet bowl,, while Dundee lowlifes partied on around him,, and laughed at his sunken eyes..
here’s hoping this new Law helps.. but alas….

Gosh Ruby, this may sound like cowardice but I prefer not to know about terrible cases like this. If I think too deeply about it I cannot sleep, I know it happens and like everyone else I contribute to the various childrens charities but I sort of think me knowing about it and losing sleep doesnt help anyone. Does not mean I do not care, does that make sense? Oh well its how I cope with it.

Teapot

Makes me ashamed to be part of mankind

Alas being able to check up on someone proves nothing other than they have never been caught!

It amazes me how much strength is given to CRB checks and the like. People who are abusive (in whatever form) can be doing it for decades before they are even caught.

We only ever hear about the extreme cases or where catastophic failings in the system have resulted in a child’s death, but did you know it is so much more common than you think.

I used to own a nursery school and in one term alone we had at least 3 children whom we considered to be at risk and were monitoring. I actually had to take the step of referring one case to social services, doing so with such apprehension in case I was wrong – turned out that the child and family were already known to social services. I felt so much better on hearing that.

Child protection or safeguarding begins at home with you and me, never be affraid to take something further if you have a hunch, if you are wrong no harm done.

Abuse takes many forms, neglecting to take your ill child to a doctor cause you can’t take time of work is neglect which is abuse. Obviously sexual abuse is what it is but allowing a child to encounter sexualised viewing on tv for example a 13 year old watching an 18 certificate film, could be construde as abuse. Obviously extreme examples but like I said, good upbringing in a safe environment begins in the home.
I could talk about this all day as I have attended several courses on the subject over the years and seen some pretty harrowing stuff. Nothing shocks me. As long as people cannot even be civil to one and other in a chat room, what chance have the extremists in this society ever got of seeing right from wrong.

Anyway back to my original point, step fathers or not, CRB or not, Background checks or not, it will make no difference. it goes on. I know many men who adore and take on a child as if they were there own, why should they be scrutinised because of the actions of a minority in society?

@melody wrote:

Alas being able to check up on someone proves nothing other than they have never been caught!

It amazes me how much strength is given to CRB checks and the like. People who are abusive (in whatever form) can be doing it for decades before they are even caught.

We only ever hear about the extreme cases or where catastophic failings in the system have resulted in a child’s death, but did you know it is so much more common than you think.

I used to own a nursery school and in one term alone we had at least 3 children whom we considered to be at risk and were monitoring. I actually had to take the step of referring one case to social services, doing so with such apprehension in case I was wrong – turned out that the child and family were already known to social services. I felt so much better on hearing that.

Child protection or safeguarding begins at home with you and me, never be affraid to take something further if you have a hunch, if you are wrong no harm done.

Abuse takes many forms, neglecting to take your ill child to a doctor cause you can’t take time of work is neglect which is abuse. Obviously sexual abuse is what it is but allowing a child to encounter sexualised viewing on tv for example a 13 year old watching an 18 certificate film, could be construde as abuse. Obviously extreme examples but like I said, good upbringing in a safe environment begins in the home.
I could talk about this all day as I have attended several courses on the subject over the years and seen some pretty harrowing stuff. Nothing shocks me. As long as people cannot even be civil to one and other in a chat room, what chance have the extremists in this society ever got of seeing right from wrong.

Anyway back to my original point, step fathers or not, CRB or not, Background checks or not, it will make no difference. it goes on. I know many men who adore and take on a child as if they were there own, why should they be scrutinised because of the actions of a minority in society?

Thanks for this Melody… one thing struck me though, do social services not inform the nursery if a child who is at risk is in their care? Surely the nursery should know?

Teapot