Not Again

My heart goes out to the family.

This would kind of link to another thread. Maybe we should believe in God more. And his opposite number. Perhaps if perpetrators of this kind of crime thought that when they died they would suffer far worse than their victims, they would think twice. Its the idea that people can get away with it and even if they do get caught they only spend a couple of years in a cushy prison and then get released to do it all over again. Instant gratification, no penalties, or very few.

Babies and children being used in this way …. well its just not right. And what is even worse is children doing it to children. Our society has something really bad happening to it.

I could never say that i believe in the death penalty because I dont. However, even I would think that the death penalty would be too good for the scum who treat children in this way. Life in a 6 ft by 6 ft stone cage 23 hours a day. One hour out just to remind them of what they are missing.

the sentence there are no deterrants says a lot, hoever, a lot of people who do commit these attrocities are socially inadequate and would that really deter them, like you mims i dont know the answer but, as much as i dont beleive in hanging i would advocate it for child molesters , thing is, these people are put in jail to serve time, what happens? every so often there names crops up, and parents of some of the children have to read and listne about them time and time again, I would like to say as someone once said, give them to the mothers of the children, thing is tho, we have had a spate of cases where the mother is the perpertrator.

I have said before, i wouldnt mind betting any government that advocates one strike and your out, and longer harder sentences for crimes against children i suspect would win an election with no contest.

I cant comprehend how anyone can do what some have done to babies and toddlers, tiny little human beings who suffer so much in their little lives, there is no justice for them with the namby pamby sentences being handed out…………

@rubyred wrote:

och i know cath, its a shocker..seeems the mothers family seem decent sorts. there is talk of folks having to take examinations by the police force for looking after kids.. maybe they should look at a ” stepfather”, clause. i know many people divorce etc. but its common as muck now for the people moving in to be the abusers.
poor wee lamb.:(

now , this is where we are in danger of allowing the word ‘stepfather’ to become the word ‘abuser’, but, I do have to agree, a lot of the abuse being reported does seem to be , quite rightly as you say , the people moving in……

Taking on another persons children even for the most decent of people is hard. I re married and whilst I had a daughter of 2 from a previous marriage, I was very very aware of the dangers that could befall her, one of the reasons I married the man I did was that I felt I could trust him with her, having been bought up with a ‘phsycotic (sp) stepfather i had to be sure that my little girl would be safe.

That said, I never left her with him alone, oh dont get me wrong, he never did anything to warrant the fact that any suspicion of any wrong doings was happening, and, my daughter and him are very very close now she’s grown up, in fact, she looks on him as her dad. It was hard for him too, because I remember as clearly one day after the report of a stepfather being arrested on suspicion that he had killed his 15 year old stepdaughter my husband saying ‘I sure as hope nothing ever happens to ‘B’ because its always the stepfather they suspect’ what an awful thing for him to be worried about? fortunately as I said , whilst the marriage didnt work, he never ever harmed a hair on her head!!

However, sadly, many many children are not so lucky, what do we do? The services are sadly so stretched and cash strapped that the health visitor and social work system cannot possibly cope with it all, when my eldest was a baby, my health visitor had visited twice and not seen her because she was asleep, on the third visit she instisted on going up to her room, and taking a look at her, I wasnt too pleased because I was trying to get her in to a routine, but later I realised she was doing her job!! whats happened to that sort ‘care’ ?

we are so scared of being branded ‘abusers’ these days even the ‘nit nurse’ nor teachers or anyone that isnt the mother of the child is allowed to examine a childs head, how many of you would be scared even to pick a child up and comfort it after a fall? I know my first instinct would be to help the child up and give it a cuddle? does that then in this politically correct world then make me a target for being branded an abuser? I cant be the only one that thinks like that?

Social workers for example, if they do suspect abuse, are they allowed to hold the child, examine them for fear of being branded an abuser, we are all so aware now with our children that they can be so easily abused if a social worker for example was to pull up a childs t shirt to examine them because they suspected abuse all hell would break loose!!

I can only see that the judicial system has to come down hard on abusers of any sort, people have to be scared to be found guilty of abusing a child, sure we say they get ‘theirs’ in prison but do they? they are protected , again for fear that prison staff may be prosecuted for lack of ‘duty of care’

We the people have the answer, WE need to let the powers that be know WE wont stand for the system handing out ‘slap on the wrist’ sentences. how do we do it? you tell me…………

it seems to me that almost on a weekly basis we hear of these horrific cases of babies being put through the most imaginalbe torture, what about the ones that dont die? do we ever hear about those? and there are thousands of children being abused on a daily basis, Mims is right in a way, are we all to blame? what do we do? how can we the people affect the judicial system? Well, i guess letting our voices be heard in parliament for a start, I know after sitting here thinking about this I will be one of those putting together a letter to the powers that be? maybe a few more should too, we have people like sara payne, the mother of the little girl murdered by a peadophile campaigning for Sarah’s law, sure there are a lot of good people out there campaigning, maybe a few more of us should be shouting louder about the disgust instead of getting into the ‘mob mentality’ of give me the abuser in a room and I will sort them out?

for all those babies and children who have suffered so much at the hands of the very people that were supposed to look after them, rest in peace little ones…………