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7 June, 2009 at 10:14 pm #13129
Nick griffin is at this moment looking victory in the face, the resident bunch od political pundits are chewing the fat making up as many reasons as they can to offload the fact that the BNP has mads quite astounding results. like it or not millions all told have voted for them, and this could spell real trouble on the streets this summer. :roll: :shock: :roll:
8 June, 2009 at 6:57 am #398837This is a direct result of Labour policies over the last 12 years, before they came to power the BNP didn’t even have a single councillor, never mind MEP’s.
Labour have systematically harassed, bullied, controlled and infuriated the entire population of the UK. Their policies are ill-thought-out nonsense. They have put MPs above those laws. They have sneered at us. They have looked down on us. They have treated us as if we were idiots. And now look. As a direct result of what they have done, the BNP have 2 seats in the European Parliament. Why do you think this happened? It’s not the fault of a deluded electorate who are all racists. It’s the fault of political correctness, bannings, stealth taxes, lies and spin, control freakery, nannying, crazed legislation that is so vague that anyone can be locked up for anything now.
This is why the BNP have done well, this is the result of politicians putting their own and their parties interests above those of the electorate.
8 June, 2009 at 9:29 am #398838Your analysis sounds about right to me QM. Mind you I hardly think that the BNP getting two seats is a stunning ‘breakthrough’. I suspect that in four (or is it five) years time, they will lose them again as by then we’ll have gotten rid of the dysfunctional Brown and his buddies.
I find it quite amusing that the BBC newsreaders are practically foaming at the mouth over the BNP getting any seats at all, much less two of ’em. They seem particularly exercised that the BNP’s policies are allegedly ‘homophobic’ – as if this is the single most important issue we face today. The shock and outrage in their questioning is apparent for all to hear.
For some reason they seem to think that a bunch of Northerners in flat caps, half pissed on weak beer, not liking poofters is outrageous. THAT would never happen in the scented corridors of the BBC eh?
8 June, 2009 at 1:49 pm #398839The BNP have gained not by increasing their vote but by the collapse in the Labour vote.
Those who used the BNP for a protest vote this time round will probably not vote BNP again.
8 June, 2009 at 6:57 pm #398840@bassingbourne55 wrote:
The BNP have gained not by increasing their vote but by the collapse in the Labour vote.
Those who used the BNP for a protest vote this time round will probably not vote BNP again.
Firstly there was a much lower turnout from 2.122m to 1.651m so everyone got fewer votes than last time. The fact of the matter is that the BNP share of the vote went UP from 6.4% to 8%. That’s why they got in.
Secondly, the BNP in the North West, got a higher proportion of the vote than Labour did in the South West.
God knows I wouldn’t vote for them if they were the only party on the ballot paper but if you dismiss them and demonise them, not only are you ignoring their growing popularity but you are completely missing the point as to WHY they are growing in popularity.
There are a growing number of white, mainly working class people who perceive immigration as a problem and can see that every minority group has someone set up by the Government to help them but that they do not. Where do the poorer, less well educated, perhaps English language poor end up in this country? In what were previously predominantly white working class areas. And when these white working class people begin to grumble as they see this immigration centre open up or that immigration initiative announced when they seem to be getting nothing, what happens? The Government, the big political parties shout them down. Refuse to listen to them. So what happens? They turn to someone who does seem to be listening to them.
I’ve heard politicians on the TV and all they say about the BNP is that they are a racist party who won’t let non-whites join and want to introduce repatriation (which is the truth, of course). They say it over and over again. No-one listening could be in any doubt. But then they say that people voting for them don’t realise this!!!! I suspect that for many people this is the ONLY thing that they know about them. And still they vote for them.
Also I can see no event on the horizon which tells me that at the next general election the Labour vote will have recovered.
Like it or not, the existence of the BNP is a direct result of ALL the main parties not grasping the immigration nettle. Worse, they have actively discouraged debate on the subject.
Remember the last election but one where there was an attempt to actually BAN immigration as a subject for election discussion?
I hold no candle for Labour or the Tories. As far as I’m concerned, they have consistently lied to us for years about immigration AND Europe. The expenses business has revealed that virtually all MPs of both parties don’t give a toss for anything except enjoying an extravagant lifestyle at our expense.
But – they’re they ones who’ve been in power for the decades that have seen a catastrophic decline in our country. They have to go – the lot of them. With only a tiny number of exceptions, all MPs in this current Parliament have either been guilty of fraud, embezzlement and theft themselves – or have been aware of it and done nothing.
The idea that this Parliament can reform itself, let alone continue to govern us, is ludicrous!
The public know this, hence the rise of the BNP
8 June, 2009 at 7:28 pm #398841I do think the BNP is a divisive threat threat in our society. I also think is that they are unlikely do much better in elections. The greatest danger they pose is through their actions on the street and at meetings, not what their few elected representatives do, although I suppose that gives them a platform and a bit of credibility as a political force.
8 June, 2009 at 8:21 pm #398842The ppl who voted BNP probably don’t realise the true implications of their vote… UKIP would have been a better option surely?
That said… Everyone who slated the labour government seem to have been fast to forget the state the Tories left the country in the last time around…
I was a child of the Thatcher era, and that woman did as much damage to the economy in the 80s as any labour government that has followed..
I grew up eating mince, burgers and sausages coz of her… in a time when CJD was rife… Yes am a mad cow!! And the bi tch stole my free school milk!!! How very rude!
8 June, 2009 at 10:40 pm #398843Have you noticed that every time Mick Biffin of the BNP appears in front of TV cameras to do his “I’m a rwasonable man of the people” act …… standing behind him are ranged a group of heavies (admittedly in suits these days) with shaven heads?
The underlying message is most unfortunate.
9 June, 2009 at 4:30 am #398844@melody wrote:
The ppl who voted BNP probably don’t realise the true implications of their vote… UKIP would have been a better option surely?
That said… Everyone who slated the labour government seem to have been fast to forget the state the Tories left the country in the last time around…
I was a child of the Thatcher era, and that woman did as much damage to the economy in the 80s as any labour government that has followed..
I grew up eating mince, burgers and sausages coz of her… in a time when CJD was rife… Yes am a mad cow!! And the bi tch stole my free school milk!!! How very rude!
If you were a child of the 70’s then you would know why Thatcher came about. Rampant inflation, strikes ans union abuse of power, a wrecked economy, the dead unburied in Liverpool because of a strike, the chancellor having to go to the IMF with a begging bowl in his hands because Britain was broke. (That’s why you lost your milk, Thatcher had to pay off the debt)
Oddly enough caused by Labour.
In fact if you go back through the years, the economy has always been left in a shambles by a Labour government.
9 June, 2009 at 4:41 pm #398845Poor old Nick’s been pelted with Eggs at his Press Conference.
BNP leader Nick Griffin was forced to speed away from his own press conference after protesters pelted him with eggs.
Shouting “off our streets Nazi scum”, the demonstrators chased him down the street to his car as he prepared to face reporters outside the Houses of Parliament.
Mr Griffin, who on Monday was elected an MEP for the North West of England, fled with his bodyguards in tow and quickly sped off.
He later branded the incident “disgusting” and said: “It’s a very, very sad day for British democracy.
“People should be entitled to hear what we have to say and to hear journalists question us robustly.”
He described protesters as an “organised mob that’s backed by all three main parties to stop us getting our message across to the public” and added: “It does not represent ordinary people.”
Protest organiser Weyman Bennett, national secretary of Unite Against Fascism, said: “The majority of people did not vote for the BNP, they did not vote at all.
“The BNP was able to dupe them into saying that they had an answer to people’s problems.
“They presented themselves as a mainstream party. The reality was because the turnout was so low, they actually got elected.”
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090609/video/vuk-bnp-leader-nick-griffin-is-pelted-wi-49bfa63.html
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