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I got a lot on my mind…..must stop going to them auctions….LMAO….Any way…..Summer is kicking in so what’s on your mind for the next few months? Summer to me is a time for action as so much can be done more than in the winter months. don’t get dark til roughly 9 pm at the moment…awesome!
My m8 got a new rowing boat the other day…….i thought …that’s oarsome…LMAO….i even phoned up the white water association in america the other day….i got a rapid response….LOLOL…..
what is on my mind is the therepy I have to do is prob going to be rubbish, 8 months waiting for nhs therepy
jn,
speaking from experience…
nhs therapy is as good as you allow it to be.
If you want to make it work, then it will be better than approaching it with suspicion. The end result might not be a restoration to full health, but it should be better to talk with someone about your problems and think of different ways of handling them.
If it’s cbt – and cbt is for cases of anxiety as well as depression – it will be useful to a point but it’s not the be-all and end-all it was once believed. The last I heard was that they can get you back to a plateau, whereby you’re operating as a member of society to all intents and purposes. But they can’t get you beyond that plateau. In other words, the body does its job but the motivation which pushes people isn’t restored. Cbt can’t do that.
If that is your problem, then I hope that you’ll be aware of this and ask for more than the cbt offers.
I don’t know the nature of the therapy, but whatever it is, it’s likely to take a while.
nhs therapy is as good as you allow it to be.
It is nothing to do with “as good as you allow it to be” which places sole responsibility on the “patient” rather than the Care Provider.
Mental health provision in the UK is abysmal, has been subjected to decades of ‘real’ cuts, including under Blair and a one size fits all approach to treament, involving horrendous waiting lists directly places the onus on the “patient” to ‘get better’ on rationed treatment, often inadequate, rather than questioning why tailor made treatment is not readily available as it is with ‘physical’ disease and illness.
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Gerry,
I knows…friends involved in mental health tell me, and so does the news, and a very limited personal experience.
The fact that ect is still used in mental health is worrying..one very close acquaintance of mine is still suffering form the after effects.
My comments were directed on a purely personal level at jn, hoping he may benefit.
When I say that nhs therapy is as good as you allow it to be, it was a phrase which stresses the need for a positive approach to the therapy. You can wait for the therapist to wheedle things out of you, or you can try to work with him/her to progress in some way away from the pain. If you are admitted into therapy, then it usually does involve a pain that you will do anything to escape.
The adequacy of that treatment leaves a lot – an awful lot – to desire, as could be seen in my comments on cbt.
But as a practical word of advice, in a very limited environment of therapist and ‘patient’, I made that comment in order to be helpful to jn.
The advice may not be helpful, of course, but it was my hope that it will be.
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When I say that nhs therapy is as good as you allow it to be, it was a phrase which stresses the need for a positive approach to the therapy. You can wait for the therapist to wheedle things out of you, or you can try to work with him/her to progress in some way away from the pain. If you are admitted into therapy, then it usually does involve a pain that you will do anything to escape.
I do agree a positive outlook, if possible, is helpful, easier said than done though. I just don’t think strictly rationed provision is helpful to people with long term mental health issues and especially those that are trauma related. It is all well and good opening pandora’s box with professional support and exploring what is inside, but only if there is that professional support throughout that journey, in its entirety and rationed CBT sessions etc are wholly inadequate and quite frankly a piss take. I am speaking generally though and of course I wish you JN, all the best on your journey. I suspect however that your cynicism is well founded.
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thanks GE and SCEP
I mean so I had it today I think today is her just understanding me, but that prob continue in later sessions, she says it will be up to 18 sessions, and did say it is limited, (bloody funding), mental health funding or and support time period or just what they say or and dont say to try and help, to me seems to be lacking info, it pisses me off that the gov with mps earning supposy 70+ each, and the bloody royal family and Olympic and help other countrys wars, and gov helping banks and chairtys etc, is wasteful, when it seems education and mental health time periods and or info related to them topics, seems to be lacking or lacking in some places, I guess it is post code lottery bs, any person can get mental health prob/s, but are gov is stupid, I mean I know one of the staff wants a (clinical phycologist) – Wirral job, but at the time there was no job there in the Wirral or the whole of mersyside, and the fact there seems to be lacking of male therapists, when me and others might of prefare them, it is a joke, the uk is not 100% great….- Briton, so anyway so ok they allow 50 min to 1 h each session, so say it got to 18 sessions I think supposly what she said that is the max, then what does one go back on the nhs waiting list to wait another 8 months to 2+ years……., the gov need to fund what is bloody important, not what is wasteful ignorant greedy dumb crazy things.
jn,
everyone but everyone knows that mental health is underfunded and generally a disgrace.
Given the awful limits on health spending and provision, the practical question is all-important.
I don’t know what you’re suffering, and I don’t think this is at all a good forum for you to talk about it in detail.
But what you’re describing sounds normal. You spent up to an hour informing her of your problems. Her job is now to explore the problems and suggest ways you might help yourself.
I don’t know your case, but what may be likely is that she can’t solve your problems. Not just because of underfunding, but because you’re the only one who can solve your problems. You have to take control of your own life again? (I may be wrong as I don’t know your specific problems). Her job is to help you see what the problems are clearly so that you can take steps to deal with them.
Once you’ve done that, yu can then approach your GP again for being put back on the waiting list.
Unfair? Yes, of course. Life ain’t fair, and even the govt are forced to admit mental health provision is a disgrace.
I think that’s the best practical way to see things and all the best in the next few months.
jn
it may be an idea to ask her to have 10 weekly sessions, followed by 8 sessions every two weeks. That way, it gives you a chance to think about what’s been said, and what is to be said, and what you’ll need to do.
Just a suggestion
Wow, now I am really perplexed.
Wow again…working very closely in the field of mental health and many clients whom have mental health issues,NEVER EVER have I EVER heard a direct worker EVER give a time frame for therapy, EVER…..and when issues resolved, removed, or corrected. Frankly if I had a therapist give me a time frame she work with me, I would walk out the door never to return.
Each person issues are different. Each depending how long have, different points in which an illness may intensify.
Depending on the extreme attack if you will, may be visits twice a week until the level of illness reduced. Once a month blood test required if taking medication to make sure working effectively. This may be for few months, also tells if patient taking prescribed medication. Then when a level out, less blood test.
Patients will continue treatments as scep pointed out maybe every other week. Twice a month. Symptoms can change, needs change, emotions, performance change.
Takes three (3) weeks for medications to kick in, work effectively.
So my personally opinion from working directly in a field, therapist gives you a time frame on lst or 2nd meet, they not worth it…. my personal opinion…
Now if we talking time frame due to allowed financial ability…then I go every other week. Twice a month.. allows person time to adjust, use techniques offered in the helping process.
Wish u well just nothing…
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