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Now folks, if you take an animal to the vet and its seriously ill and can’t or won’t make a recoveryer. Your told it would be kinder to put to sleep. Then why as Humans can you not make your own choice to die peacefully…. my POPS in Australia, is 86 had a guid ole life, but the last 10yrs he’s battled with Cancer of diifferent places, his last op he got half his nose taken away as skin cancer, he’s frail and had enough, tells the doctors he doesnt wish anymore treatments, he’s constantly freeZin all the time, yes in australia he has a gas fire 24/7 on….!! and just wants to pass over, but if the family aid or abet him, its a crimnal act.. so whats your thoughts on this.. i know it has the new youthneesia but i canny spell it rite lol
I agree with you 100% Mary. When your fully compus mentus, if you state, in your will, that should you suffer say a stroke, and have no hope of recovery atall, and you wish to be allowed to die then your wishes should be carried out. I did geriatric nursing some years ago. I always remember one lady in particular. She had had a brain stem stroke, ie it affected her whole brain as apposed to just one side. She was completly bedridden, and literally a pile of skin and bones. Now obviously she had to be given fluids, so we had special beakers with spouts on with which we could give her sips of water. Well due to her stroke she had just about lost her swallowing reflex, so she coughed most of it back up again, but we had to try. Food was out of the question, she simply could not swallow it. She used to lay there and look at you as if to say: “For Gods sake will you just hit me over the bloody head and let me die”. It broke your heart. I’ve also nursed cancer patients and patients with bedsores big enough to put a mans fist into, people with gangrene and allsorts. Now you tell me, if you were one of those people I’ve looked after, and you were laying there, screaming in agony, because despite being given regular doses of dia morphine(Heroin) you were still in agony, and had also(as was frequently the case) lost control of ALL your bodily functions, what would you want eh? Would you want to see the person you loved most in the world spending their final days/weeks in agony, or do you think that it would be kinder to let them die peacefully and with some dignity. I know what I’d prefer. So yes, I agree that in certain circumstances, euthanasia is the only option. As Mary said, you wouldn’t let your pet suffer, so why let someone you love suffer?
Huge big YES i am totally in favour of this
I voted no, cos i’m never planning on being dead, i’m gonna live foreverrrrrrrrrrr
@anita Gofradump wrote:
I voted no, cos i’m never planning on being dead, i’m gonna live foreverrrrrrrrrrr
God help us. :roll: :lol:
Yes, absolutely.
I will never forget watching a documentary about that lady with the motor nuron(spl) disease… was it Diane Moran her name?
Her last weeks were a painful agonising living hell, all witnessed by her close family. Her screams could be heard a street away.
And it could have all have been ended with dignity and peace had she have been given what was her “dying wish”.
Poor poor woman. Gave me nightmares it did.
I’m going to take the opposite view….. no surprise there eh???
In this country it is still a criminal offence to aid, abet, counsel, or procure a person to commit an act of suicide …… and I think, quite rightly so.
My point is, where do you draw the line??? It is but a very short step between assisting somebody to kill themselves because they have some sort of incurable illness and their ending will undoubtedly be an unpleasant one….. and deciding that a person is no longer of use to society and therefore that they should be done away with.
Interestingly enough, it is NOT a criminal offence to kill yourself – but then if it was, prosecuting a dead person would be a bit tricky eh? It is also NOT a criminal offence to attempt suicide (and fail). The criminal offence is committed by the third party if they get involved in the act itself.
We’re all going to die sooner or later and in one way or another. For some it will be a comfortable death, for others a nasty painful and maybe even violent death.
Whatever particular form of death awaits each one of you, you should get on with it and accept your own ending the best way you can.
@forumhostpb wrote:
I’m going to take the opposite view….. no surprise there eh???
In this country it is still a criminal offence to aid, abet, counsel, or procure a person to commit an act of suicide …… and I think, quite rightly so.
My point is, where do you draw the line??? It is but a very short step between assisting somebody to kill themselves because they have some sort of incurable illness and their ending will undoubtedly be an unpleasant one….. and deciding that a person is no longer of use to society and therefore that they should be done away with.
Interestingly enough, it is NOT a criminal offence to kill yourself – but then if it was, prosecuting a dead person would be a bit tricky eh? It is also NOT a criminal offence to attempt suicide (and fail). The criminal offence is committed by the third party if they get involved in the act itself.
We’re all going to die sooner or later and in one way or another. For some it will be a comfortable death, for others a nasty painful and maybe even violent death.
Whatever particular form of death awaits each one of you, you should get on with it and accept your own ending the best way you can.
and the majority of people do take that view and suffer it. To be honest those that need the assistance are so debilitated it would take the help of another to carry out the deed anyway (assisted suicide) and most would not like to ask someone to be put in that position.
I haven’t voted, because i’m in a quandary over this matter. Over the past five and a half years, my husband and family have been called to say their farewells to me – as I appeared to be losing my battle to live – on average, once a year.
I am just out of hospital a matter of weeks, but I wasn’t expected to be. At my worst, the docs in charge wanted to remove the fluids and drugs attached into the femoral line in my groin, from which time they told my husband and my brother, that they expected me to have no more than two hours to live.
My husband and brother went ballistic, and told the medics that I was a fighter, that I had beaten this before and would do so again. Obviously – I have!
Now – I have argued the toss before on another website, but I have to say this again – please don’t make the mistake of believing that everyone who is desperately, sickeningly, horrendously ill, is prepared to let go of life. I can only speak for myself, and in truth,at one point the pain,I was suffering was so unbelievably bad – even with morphine – that my husband and myself were minutes away from climbing into the car with a tube fitted from the exhaust, and turning on the engine (and that was in the good old days– things are much worse for me now.)
But – not believing in an afterlife – we couldn’t bare the thought of never seeing one another again, and despite the despair and agony _ I clung onto life with my bare hands, just as I will in the future.
My point is – that I know what it is to lie dying (cue the JC cynics) and I know that I chose life, and intend to wring the last little drop out of it.HOWEVER…
I can also understand why someone may want to give up, and I believe that anyone who cannot bare the thought of another second of pain, should have the right to end their own life.
I’m just worried about doctors being too quick to pull out the tubes, as I have proved, and I know that this is not an uncommon practice.
Hence my quandary, and I do apologise for rambling.@esmeralda wrote:
I can also understand why someone may want to give up, and I believe that anyone who cannot bare the thought of another second of pain, should have the right to end their own life.
This is in fact the nub of my point. An individual does have the ”right” to end their own life – in so far that this is a ”right. (i.e. they are not brreaking the law if the commit or attempt to commit suicide).
The problem arises when others are involved in either the decision to do it, or worse still (IMHO) the actual act itself.
The situation for me doesn’t arise as I am sure that my end will come from a Number 110 bus in the middle of the back.
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