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The lorry of peace arrives in Gemany in time for Christmas, where will it’s next stop be?
Nobody knows.
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I dunno Drac. This is terrible. Now our own armed police are being deployed to patrol Christmas markets in case of more terror attacks. What the hell is going on, when innocent people cant even go to a damn market at Christmas, without being terrified some bloody nutjob is going to go on the rampage and cause carnage. Hope Merkel chokes on her turkey.
The attack was terrible, but unfortunately predictable given Germany’s immigration policy. Targeting the christmas market was no accident, it causes the most impact in people’s minds.
I hope the German people are aware enough to see through their countries censorship and propaganda and vote Merkel out for someone with more sensible policies.
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Exactly. All those people in one place….perfect targets. Yes…Merkel needs to be voted out. Her immigration policy is insane. I think she wants to be seen as some kind of hero…”look at me, I welcome all the ‘refugees'” and she denies that since the migrants, (sorry refugees) have arrived, crime has gone up in Germany.
France doesn’t have an open-door policy, but they have the same problem.
Merkel seems fine to me.
If you play at dropping bombs,invading Iraq, meddling in Syria’s civil war, then expect trouble.
This is a policing problem. The UK police have been very good at it, but they say at some point it is going to happen here. It’s British radical muslims who have been the killers here.
If there was a quick way of stopping these killings, it would have been done.
What do you suggest, Tinsel? You want to follow the BB policy of deporting all Muslims? Now wonder why that will actually not work, but make the situation worse.
You actually have nothing realistic to suggest. Otherwise you would be listened to very carefully by Europol and the anti-terror squad here. You’re sounding off.
A large group of people, but also the cultural significance of christmas itself.
My understanding of Merkel is that she does whatever she thinks will be popular, which is how she keeps getting re-elected. On this occasion she was wrong with immigration, but instead of backing down she is continuing with the same policy.
There is a lot more state censorhip of media in Germany than I think most people realise, even on the internet certain Facebook pages and Youtube channels aren’t visible in Germany. I think this is because of East Germany’s communist history, given that ex-Stasi informers are given positions of power over these things (Evidence 1, Evidence 2, Evidence 3).
France doesn’t have an open-door policy, but they have the same problem.
Giving refugee status to Pakistan, a nuclear power seems like an obvious mistake to me. Regardless of that, Germany has an open-door policy, and France has open borders with Germany, what do you think the result of that is?
If you play at dropping bombs,invading Iraq, meddling in Syria’s civil war, then expect trouble.
Gemany wasn’t involved in any of those conflicts, but they are still being attacked.
Now wonder why that will actually not work, but make the situation worse.
I don’t see how it makes the situation worse, it makes attacks much more difficult to pull off.
To clarify, i’m not in favour of deportation. Things aren’t that bad yet. But I think I would probably accept a ban on immigration from Islamic majority countries until a better solution can be found.
These attacks cannot be allowed to continue. People will take it into their own hands, which appears to be what happened in the Zurich shooting yesterday. If things continue as they are now then things will only escalate.
You’re right to be opposed to deportation.
deportation of illegal immigrants is recognised policy everywhere (though in the US it hasn’t been really carried out).
Deportation of 1 milli9on refuges/immigrants will make things much, much worse. Where do you send them? How do do deal with policing a huge number of people with deep resentment as a result of their relatives being hunted down and deported to possible death?.
The draconian (sorry, drac, no pun intended) introduction of internment without trial in Northern Ireland, and the killing of 13 unarmed civilians in Derry, served as a major recruiting sergeant for the IRA.
Don’t you think draconian measures against Muslims and immigrants would have the same effect on violent radical Muslims? The Abu Graib humiliation of prisoners is still being used as an anti-American propaganda tool for the radicals.
The reason that people in the West – soft targets such as civilians, especially women, kids, holiday-makers, Christmas revelers – are being targeted is in order to create hatred towards Muslims in the West. The polarisation which results plays right into the hands of ISIS and al-Quaeda.
This is a policing operation. I don’t know whether anyone has noticed the huge number of bollards which have appeared in this country, but apparently they are set up to minimise the possibility of a heavy-duty lorry killing large number of us as we head down to the bingo hall. There will be some horrible things to come, but you have to rely on policing to deal with it.
You’re right to be opposed to deportation.
I would add the exception of people who commit serious crimes, they should be deported to their country of origin.
Deportation of 1 milli9on refuges/immigrants will make things much, much worse. Where do you send them?
For refugees, international law says we can return them to the last safe country they came from, which would be France.
How do do deal with policing a huge number of people with deep resentment as a result of their relatives being hunted down and deported to possible death?.
I’m going to make an assumption that most of the refugees here don’t have any family here, and most of the ones that do are probably lying about it. Other than that, I don’t know. That’s what propaganda is for, I guess
.The draconian (sorry, drac, no pun intended) introduction of internment without trial in Northern Ireland, and the killing of 13 unarmed civilians in Derry, served as a major recruiting sergeant for the IRA.
Ireland is geographically a lot closer to us than ISIS, and they were being detained in their own lands. So the comparison isn’t quite so straight forward.
Don’t you think draconian measures against Muslims and immigrants would have the same effect on violent radical Muslims? The Abu Graib humiliation of prisoners is still being used as an anti-American propaganda tool for the radicals.
I want restrictions on Muslims outside of the country, so British muslims shouldn’t really have anything to care about if they actually are the moderates they claim to be.
The reason that people in the West – soft targets such as civilians, especially women, kids, holiday-makers, Christmas revelers – are being targeted is in order to create hatred towards Muslims in the West. The polarisation which results plays right into the hands of ISIS and al-Quaeda.
I’m well aware of how terrorism works, but we have to take actions to defend ourselves from these attacks.
This is a policing operation. I don’t know whether anyone has noticed the huge number of bollards which have appeared in this country, but apparently they are set up to minimise the possibility of a heavy-duty lorry killing large number of us as we head down to the bingo hall. There will be some horrible things to come, but you have to rely on policing to deal with it.
I really don’t think a couple of concrete bollards is going to stop 10 tonnes of steel travelling at 60+ mph. If you actually wanted to protect against this kind of attack, and they became common enought to justify such measures. I would probably suggest having tire stininging mats accessable in a similar way to floation rings along the paths of rivers.
Sorry, I couldn’t find very good images to demonstrate what I mean.
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